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The Great Renaming, poll #2

Discussion in 'Iron Tower Studio' started by Vault Dweller, Sep 6, 2018.

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Which name do you prefer?

  1. Pilgrims of the Void

    57 vote(s)
    27.5%
  2. Colony Ship - a Post-Earth role-playing game

    90 vote(s)
    43.5%
  3. Across the Void

    16 vote(s)
    7.7%
  4. No Home But the Stars

    16 vote(s)
    7.7%
  5. Born Beneath No Sun

    28 vote(s)
    13.5%
  1. lophiaspis Savant

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    It's not bad, fairly catchy, but you would lose one the one hand the religious subtext and on the other the instant 'science fiction sense of wonder' that comes with having 'Star' in the title. On first glance it might be a game about airships...
     
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  2. lophiaspis Savant

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    That actually makes a lot of sense for the ship name. More than that a fanatic Christian sect would keep the name 'Starfarer' for their Ark, anyhow. Vault Dweller really needs to develop a sense of contrast and spectacle and stop making everything in his games so drab, mundane and low energy. Miriam led the Exodus together with Moses and Aaron. A ship is female, so... Starship Miriam. The SMAC homage is subtle enough.
     
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  4. Mr. Hiver Learned

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    Since the game is very probably heavily influenced and inspired by Gene Wolfe books of the New Sun, maybe the title should take a hint from the genius author too.

    By a hint i do not mean copy pasting.
     
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  5. CyberWhale Arcane

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    Ship of the New Sun. No copying at all.
     
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  6. Bohr Arbiter

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    Agree with the above. Or one could find something in a pulpy science fiction style for the ship name, eg:

    Beta Orbiter: A Colony Ship Role-Playing Game
     
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  7. Grape_You_In_the_Mouth Savant

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    Starborn - very good imho
    Born Beneath No Sun - also good. Can't tell if "Beneath No Sun" would be better but it probably is.
    The Promised Land - love it, but only after I know it's ironic for the story

    My Ideas:

    Black Skies
    Starfall
    Runaway Home
    Asteria
    A Ship Called Hope

    "Pilgrim" makes me think of fugly dudes with weird shoes and clothes.
     
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  8. Goral Arcane Patron The Real Fanboy

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    Born Beneath No Sun is best because when you put it into a search box on Steam it will be the first or second result. There are tons of Colony games though, same for Black, Star or Runaway. Pilgrims is rare too if you prefer that one.
     
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  9. Grape_You_In_the_Mouth Savant

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    East of Earth - sounds good to me.

    StarWake (starwake.net game)

    New Valley
    The Great Fall
    Cracks of Dawn
    Home Dream Space
    Redemption (Red Dead Redemption 2)
    The Redeemer (Redeemer 2017 game)
     
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  10. Mr. Hiver Learned

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    Its "Heinlein Orphans of the sky" thats named as the inspiration. Same thing concerning the title.

    I suggest making clear in the official releases, steam page description etc, its about a generation colony ship - as it stands in the trailer. Not just a colony ship as its noted on several places, which can be of any kind.

    Seems the truth about and the state of the ship is known to the characters in the game, and their futile destiny to live and die in transit with no hope or possibility of ever reaching a new world.


    hmm, hmm... Descendants... too mouthy, Children of the new Exodus? New Exodus Children?

    Generation ship children? Castaways? Descendants?

    Generation ship orphans

    or just

    Generation ship.
     
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  11. Politician Lurker King

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    Or maybe it can generate more sales precisely because players interested in other games with similar names will be redirected to the ITS game.
     
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  12. Politician Lurker King

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    "Descendants" is good. "Generation ship" is worse than "Colony ship".
     
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  13. Fenix Cipher Vatnik

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    My title is "Columbus was a moron".

    I did it.

    Absolutely agree.

    Now serious.
    Frst - all religious references are no go. Explanation why is above.
    Titles like Iron/Steel Eden and such are good but sound as cheap teenage sci-fi of 70.

    I think, the title should reflect main themes of the game, and translate emotional image of what the game world is.
    So, what is real main themes?

    Many people gathered together to reach a star, star system and a planet, and flight is so long, that only they descendants will reah it, and so long, that they completely forgot about they goal, Earth etc.
    What it reminds you in terms of emotional picture?
    Flight in a huge emptiness, in void, in abyss, when you don't even know from where you are coming from, and where you are going to.
    For me, it reminds a falling, like if you are falling somewhere in the complete darkness, and don't even know when you crash into the ground.
    I think everybody experienced a dream when you were flying and/or falling.

    So something like "Long Fall Into Darkness" is ideal, but too long and thus pretentious.
    Ideally you need something like this but in two words, maybe three.
     
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  14. Fenix Cipher Vatnik

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    After reading whole thread, I think better solution is titles like this:

    Colony Ship: Long Fall Into Darkness

    I mean, first short name help to mitigate pretentious second long part, and second long part add more color and flavor to a dty first short part.

    It could anything actually - Colony Ship: Pilgrims of the Void, Colony Ship: Across the Void, Colony Ship: No Home But the Stars, Colony Ship: Born Beneath No Sun, or ANYTHING.

    I think this solution is much more flexible, and is the way to go.
     
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  15. AbounI Arcane Patron

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    What about "The <name of the ship> Expedition : a Post-Earth role-playing game" ? (assuming Starfarer won't be the final name of the ship)
    Afterall, isn't the story an expedition in itself?
     
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  16. Roqua Arcane In My Safe Space

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    I've put some thought into it and think I've come up with the perfect title-

    "The Somethinging: Truth the Allusion"

    Its the perfect title to get all types of people to click on the game for various reasons. Certain people will have to comment on different parts of it. It may even get people to buy it just to blast the title in a review.
     
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  17. Ainamacar Novice

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    This has to be judged on a scale, even if the marketing rationale is totally correct. Many words have religious roots or even ongoing usage that, nonetheless, do not demand a religious interpretation. For example, in modern English the word "Ark" can mean something like "vessel that saves civilization" without implying a religious purpose, even though everyone is aware of the religious roots. To my ear a title like "Arkfall" is compatible with religious themes, but doesn't require them. Someone had earlier suggested "Leviathan" for the name of the ship (and game title). That word comes to English straight from the Bible, and it can be employed in religious metaphor, but its primary modern meaning is fairly generic.

    The religious connotation of "Pilgrim" is much more direct. Similarly, I had suggested a word like "Tabernacle" (the mobile religious site during the Exodus) might fit the ship's purpose, but I think that word has retained a strict religious meaning.

    The game's title doesn't have to nod to its religious themes, but there are ways to do so without being overt, and some of those words are pretty evocative.
     
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  18. vota DC Learned

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    No Home No Sun would be nice!
     
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  19. Latelistener Liturgist

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    Beneath No Sun: A Colony Ship RPG
     
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  20. ItsChon Savant Patron

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    That's not bad. ^
     
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  21. Mr. Hiver Learned

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    Its not just a colony ship, you wont be seeing or making any colonies, Or playing anything in or about a colony on any new world. If the title contains anything about the ship - it should be a generation ship in some combination or other.

    I guess it doesnt matter much because audience is dumb and hardly anyone will notice, but its a generation ship and the gameplay is completely shaped by that fact.

    Something - something
    with subtitle Generation ship RPG, maybe.
     
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  22. Martyr Learned

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    "Pilgrims of the Void" and "Across the Void" sound good, but not great.
    "No Home But the Stars" and "Born Beneath No Sun" sound like the names of novels - but novels I would like to read. voted for "Born Beneath No Sun".
    "Colony Ship - a Post-Earth role-playing game" sounds like the game is saying --> hey Fallout-fans ! buy me, I'm just like Fallout ! see, there's even a reference to Fallout in my name ?! come on, you know you want to play me !! *starts sobbing*
     
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  23. Pretty Erudite Patron

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    Furious Stars *

    * This name is a subtle reference to No Peace With The Furies.
     
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  24. Haba Harbinger of Decline Patron

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    I think what we need is not just a name, but a theme song with fitting lyrics

    When will someone make "Psychic Wars" -the game and license the song for the opening?

    VD should start listening to Arjen Anthony Lucassen and let the inspiration come to him:

     
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  25. Politician Lurker King

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    The "colony" part refers the origins and purpose of the ship, not the gameplay. The same could be said about "generation" in a hypothetical title. IMO, it's easier to grap that we are talking about a group of people who originally boarded a ship with the intention to settle in a different place than it's the notion that we have different generations of such group. I think we are stuck in the "ship" bit of "Colony Ship". Why not "Space Colony", "Colony Vessel" or "Spacecraft: a Colony Ship RPG"?
     
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