The List of Incline - 2017 Edition

[Valky]

Remove Grimoire from this list.

 

[Jenkem]

Remove Grimoire from this list.

no

 

[Infinitron]

GRIMOIRE released today, on August 4th. It had 139 votes.

 

[Valky]

In my defense I had believed and believed but the August 1 date really felt genuine to me and it hurt that my trust was shattered then.

 

[Infinitron]

BattleTech delayed to Early 2018.

 

[aweigh]

knights of the fucking chalice 2

rest of list is whatevs.

edit: oh, battleTech as well. shadowrun guys hit this shit out of the park with Dragonfall, they have my attention.

new Dragon Quest as well.

 

[Infinitron]

Underworld Ascendant coming in late 2018.

 

[MLMarkland]

Second poll I've seen today with no KC option.

 

[Infinitron]

Divinity: Original Sin 2 released. It had 230 votes.

 

[Infinitron]

Games to add to the poll next year:

Druidstone
Odd Gods
Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones
Realms Beyond

 

[buffalo bill]

Caves of Qud has a roadmap to release shooting for 2018. Here's a link: http://www.cavesofqud.com/roadmap/
From that link:

The Caves of Qud release roadmap plots the path from our Early Access launch in July 2015 to our full release in 2018. As we finish each feature arc, we move it from the Coming Feature Arcs list to the Completed Feature Arcs one. Arc descriptions may change as we refine each feature.

The game is already great, it should be on next year's poll.

 

[Roguey]

I'm pretty surprised to see that half the Codex is looking forward to Deadfire. Man is not a learning animal, etc.

 

[Fairfax]

I'm pretty surprised to see that half the Codex is looking forward to Deadfire. Man is not a learning animal, etc.

PoE brought a lot of users with less codexian tastes. If you look at the Deadfire thread, most users registered in 2015 or later. The majority of the 2017 batch is particularly awful.

 

[Catacombs]

Caves of Qud has a roadmap to release shooting for 2018. Here's a link: http://www.cavesofqud.com/roadmap/
From that link:

The Caves of Qud release roadmap plots the path from our Early Access launch in July 2015 to our full release in 2018. As we finish each feature arc, we move it from the Coming Feature Arcs list to the Completed Feature Arcs one. Arc descriptions may change as we refine each feature.

The game is already great, it should be on next year's poll.

This looks like fun. Can talk about your experience with the gameplay?

 

[buffalo bill]

Caves of Qud has a roadmap to release shooting for 2018. Here's a link: http://www.cavesofqud.com/roadmap/
From that link:

The Caves of Qud release roadmap plots the path from our Early Access launch in July 2015 to our full release in 2018. As we finish each feature arc, we move it from the Coming Feature Arcs list to the Completed Feature Arcs one. Arc descriptions may change as we refine each feature.

The game is already great, it should be on next year's poll.

This looks like fun. Can talk about your experience with the gameplay?

My short review of the early access game as it was over a year ago is on page three of the dedicated CoQ thread: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...-qud-roguelike-deserves-our-love.54165/page-3
The game is very much in the traditional roguelike tradition (lots of procedurally generated content, permadeath, originally ASCII art that is now rather attractive tiles, turn-based), but there are handcrafted elements that elevate the game. Writing really is on par with, or perhaps better than, the best RPGs in my experience, and the world is in a highly original Gammaworld-like setting.
Gameplaywise, it's more like ADOM than some other roguelikes I've played (e.g. CDDA, Infra Arcana, Nethack, DoomRL), but there aren't really class constraints on character development. In the beginning you choose between being a mutant and a True Kin (unmutated human), which is the biggest choice in terms of permanently gating off later character development options (though the number of possible ways to develop a character are enormous). True Kin have access to cybernetic implants and start with higher stats, and mutants have physical and mental mutations. AI and abilities for various enemies is different, and requires thinking about the particular encounter you're in and the environment for that encounter. Lots and lots and lots of options in combat, even with rather specific builds. Suppose you are a high-intelligence and high-strength cudgel user encountering some higher-level enemies: should you use a grenade, and if so which type? Or sprint to relative safety of a corridor? Use the charge skill to daze the highest threat target, then knock them unconscious? Use slam skill to knock an opponent through a wall into a formerly inaccessible room? Use a consumable? Start combat with a ranged attack? Throw down a slippery liquid, or pour out some acid or lava on the ground or on one of them? Really very many options, which makes the game consistently fun and replayable. This isn't even considering more diverse mutant builds.
Right now the game needs more quests, towns, NPCs, C&C and dialogue. It already has more of that than most roguelikes, but I think the dev goal is to make this game feel like a blend of a more standard RPG and a traditional roguelike.

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

How the hell is anything getting more votes than No Truce with the Furies?

 

[Rev]

I'm pretty surprised to see that half the Codex is looking forward to Deadfire. Man is not a learning animal, etc.

Codexers are so passionate about PoE that basically every thread turns into one about it. Who could have guessed that its sequel would've been one of the most anticipated games over here...

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

I'm pretty surprised to see that half the Codex is looking forward to Deadfire. Man is not a learning animal, etc.

Codexers are so passionate about PoE that basically every thread turns into one about it. Who could have guessed that its sequel would've been one of the most anticipated games over here...

Pillars isn’t a bad game, at least not after the expansions and many updates made combat much, much better. But it’s not great and after the Kickstarter great is what people were hoping for. If they hadn’t hyped it as the spiritual successor to the infinity engine games, I’m pretty sure it would’ve gotten a warmer reception here. The same goes for Numanera—there would be less hostility (not saying people here would like it, but they might not hate it with the fire of a thousand suns) if it hadn’t been pitched so aggressively as the second coming of PS:T.

Pillars 2 seems to have fixed many of the problems of the original when it was released, and after the first one expectations are lower so it will be easier for people to be pleasantly surprised. I doubt everyone will love it, but it probably won’t inspire quite as much hatred as the first one.

 

[Catacombs]

Pillars isn’t a bad game, at least not after the expansions and many updates made combat much, much better. But it’s not great and after the Kickstarter great is what people were hoping for

What has been the overarching problems with PoE?

 

[Roguey]

What has been the overarching problems with PoE?

People can chatter all they want about systems minutiae and such, but ultimately it's the writing.

 

[Kyl Von Kull]

What has been the overarching problems with PoE?

People can chatter all they want about systems minutiae and such, but ultimately it's the writing.

Yeah, it’s just kind of bland. I bet it plays well in the Midwest, though—that’s Sawyer country. I tell myself he was trying deliberately to make something really generic and he succeeded far beyond his wildest dreams.