The Mass Effect 3/BioWare Thread

You just spoiled Heechee for me. I stopped reading when that men with big robot body rescued that girl. It was so stupid it burns.

 

BioWare Social thread linking to IGN article pointing out how a lot of BioWare C&C is an illusion

Has the finally been lifted from the eyes of BioWare Social, BROS?

Guess not.

 

There are a surprising number of critical people on the BioWare forums, actually. They're just vastly out-posted by the rest. I have to wonder why they stick around... maybe a vain hope that they will influence future games for the better?

 

Posting on the Bio Social Network is pretty pointless. As soon as you're finished writing your post, the thread already either a) jumped 5 pages ahead, b) subject has changed at least 3 times or c) END OF LINE fascists closed it.

It's a fast paced place.

 

It's part of why I'm still apart of BSN.

To be honest, it's not even that they're outnumbered, really. Most people on BSN merely have a liking for BioWare games and the community as a whole. But even if their tastes don't match up with that of the Codex, they are objective enough to criticize BioWare when they fuck up or do things they don't like. For example, that new ME novel I posted about is universally considered as utter shit by the community.

But, that might be me just trying to justify spending so much time there.



It's just that the level of retardation from Biodrones and people who obsess over characters sort of set the default tone for the forum that the mods expect from the forumites i.e gigglesquee cocksucking. I recently got tempbanned for posting in a troll thread. Even though my actual post was "lol, inb4 lock", the ban was still valid because I didn't report the thread to a mod.



(Though I guess that's my punishment for willingly subjecting myself to the forum).

 

I can't speak for the others but I just post there for the lulz. I'm completely through with Bioware and have more contempt for them than I do with Crapcom and their DLC on the disc scamming.

I've been copy and pasting Codex posts bashing BW and their games on there recently btw. ^_^

 

If you really want lulz, troll in the character fan threads in the ME 3 "romance" forums. Fucking threads are like 100+ pages full of gush, fanart and general sexual wish fulfillment. They are fucked up. In a "I feel retarded for defending BSN earlier and they are everything Codex makes them out to be" kinda way.

An example to get the Codex fapping.

 

The romance fixation on BSN is utterly bizarre. All the "romances" in ME and DA amount to is a few brief conversations with a one minute dry humping scene that has fuck all to do with the story. Yet we have threads numbering in the hundreds(like that one gay thread) about this.

The real funny part is that they have the nerve to bash the sex scenes from Witcher 2 as being cheap T&A fap material when that's all Bioware's crappy tacked on romance minigame amount to.

 

But Isabela is totally a woman. She's independent, strong and proud of her sexuality. Not like that total slut Triss.

 

lol, you should post that troll on cdprojekt forums i imagine you stir up some shit

 

CrustyBot, I was taking a soda sip and almost choked to death laughing when that sketch came into view.

 

And now there is the much needed accessory to go with it!
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I disagree. Biowhorian sex scenes serve no purpose and feel like watching a cheap porn movie. Sex with Triss in TW2 felt more human-like and not even once did I smile or burst into tears, unlike with Biowhore sex, where I can't believe how stupid it looks

 

That's because Bioware employees still hadn't had their real life sex, that's why everything they put into the game looks/feels so goddamn awkward.

 

Everything BioWare needs to know about sex it learned from Top Gun. I guess they forgot to add in the licensed 1980's power ballad.

 

What the hell is with this moderation shit lately?

Hey Jaesun, why don't you go moderate Bioware Social, you'll fit right in with your bullshit there.

Deleting posts, I thought this was the fucking codex, where we could discuss shit.

 

This might sound dumb, but I think it's more about what they represent than what they are. Most games have two kinds of sexuality: a) offensively stupid pandering and b) none. BioWare games are that middle ground where you have characters who feel at least vaguely real. On top of that, by putting the power of who to fuck in the hands of the player, you add an element of authorship over the game that people appreciate. Last, BioWare games generally support gay/lesbian/bisexual options, something that is almost never seen in games, so it makes sense that the non-straight community would latch on to it.

Still doesn't change the fact that it's banal shit boring, and generally cheap fanservice at best, but sadly that's "better" than just about everything else available.

 

Has anybody noticed the transition in the weather on the high sea(s)?

 

Vaguely is the word description I can agree with as Bioware written characters are in their existence, personality and dialogue right in the wrong part of the uncanny valley. To put the power of who to fuck into the player's hand is surely a lazy and cowardly design decision not dissimilar to the basis of why a weak willed parent spoils their child. To give authorship to the player is exactly the reason Bioware games are so feeble in their attempts; to not restrain the player to the limits and laws of the game world, or those of the character and motivations of human minds, is to make the player into a kind of volte face manipulator of the game world and its people; I don't think I'm the only one who, when playing a Bioware game, tells people what I know they prefer to hear. This even got worse in Dragon Age where people liking you gave them combat bonuses, promoting in the player the notion that not pleasing people meant you were playing the game wrong.

I don't know about this business about the gay/lesbian/bisexual community latching onto the game just because it has such options, they're people just like everyone else and just because straight people believe them particular and thus abnormal doesn't mean they do, or that they are inherently outside of normalcy. The notion that such people can have their critical minds bypassed by some obligatory desire to sexually relate to something is fiercely inappropriate.

 

My point was that a sizable chunk of their fanbase is heavily invested in their romances, and BioWare games are some of the few where non-straight players can find that sort of thing. I didn't mean to imply that they were less critical or intelligent, only that that market is important to BioWare because BioWare validate rather than punish their lifestyle choices. There are hundreds of posts from GLBT gamers who are very happy BioWare acknowledge the fact that they exist in a positive way, after all, so it's clear that it means something to them.

Or, for a more KKK viewpoint, let me put it this way: there are stupid people everywhere, trannies and fags included (not that I would actually use such pejoratives seriously).

 

Fair enough, but how do you know the Bioware fanbase is heavily invested in romances, is there proof of that beyond occasional 'confessionals' or is that merely a presumption?

The sort of person who gets invested in a fictional romance I find very unsettling, a romance can be touching, but to be invested in it, whatever that means, seems emotionally deviant to me, if not intellectually as well. Some people may be invested in the romances of Bioware games but is there any proof out there that that chunk is indeed sizeable?

On what is perhaps a side note, Bioware's gay friendliness is very limited, nearly stereotypical, since it only allows for the player to sexually interact or be attracted to other conventionally attractive people. If they were actually concerned with sexuality they'd put ugly people in their games and you'd also be able to fuck the dwarf companion in Dragon Age.

 

I think you're still misunderstanding sea, maybe. He can correct me if I'm wrong. What he says is that there are romances in nearly every aspect of popular culture, but most producers stay away from using the gay stuff. Bioware seems to treats gays and straight people in an equally retarded manner. I.e. I think you're fundamentally right; if I were gay, I would be offended at the stereotypical manner in which Bioware displays them, but this goes for straight romance as well, which is displayed in an equally stereotypical and superficial manner.

BUT, I think there's a point in that the mere fact that gay romance is treated in the exact same fashion as straight romance. That's how it should be after all.

So yeah, sea is a very sensible guy in my mind. In other words:

This point is true for both heterosexual romance and homosexual romance, so the problem isn't specific (i.e. homophobic) but general. That fact alone is enough to be a positive thing for the type of equality these people ultimately seek. I mean, their agenda isn't quality such as ours are, and this is understandable.

 

Good point, and very agreeable.

 

I'm going based on the thousands of fans that inhabit their forums. Of course, that doesn't mean it represents a majority of their sales, but it's pretty clear from their Felicia Day fanservice DLC and other stuff that they're very aware of that portion of their customer base.

A lot of people just like the BioWare romances in the same way that people watch soap operas, or watch romantic comedies, or whatever. That includes gay and straight people alike. Even I don't mind them, in theory (in practice, they're horrendous, which is why I wish they'd drop them). The fanatics are there, but they don't make up a majority and I never said they did.

True, but this is also true of just about all depictions of love and romance in popular culture. See the Manic Pixie Dream Girl phenomenon, or romantic comedies, or tabloid magazines, etc.