The Mass Effect 3/BioWare Thread

The thing is, there was never a need for Shepard to die and be revived to begin with. It shows how uncreative EAware's "writers" are that they need Lazarus and the council to go full retard with "ah yes reapers"(this contradicts ME1's ending) in order to get Shepard to work with Cerberus and operate in the Terminus.

 

BioWare's 'writers' couldn't write their way out of a paper bag if their lives depended on it. More news at 11.

 

Does it clearly enter the atmosphere? The camera zooms out and pans at that moment, and the glare from the sunrise makes it harder to see. It's also possible that agents of the Shadow Broker monitored the whole thing and salvaged the body before it crashlanded (if it was going to crashland) when they saw Shepard got ejected. Or maybe he did crashland after all. It's just fun to think about when there is no definite proof.

Let's leave intent aside because it means shit as usual. The universe is consistantly over-the-top, so it's not too difficult to accept a body that crashlanded on a planet could still be brought back to life without any major drawback in these conditions. And again that's assuming it crashed. It is simply part of the narration. Artists have immense freedom in making the rules for any of their work; their only constraint is that they then stay consistent with these and do not break them lightly. The way the death and resurrection is handled fits the tone of the serie and is pretty much only a detail in the whole story.

There's no need for the death but no reason to avoid it either, and it works. It's certainly dramatic though, and that goes back to what I said about fitting the tone of the serie. As for the Council, they do not openly recognise the existence of the Reapers in the ending, only that "Sovereign and the geth" as well as Saren were responsible for the attack on the Citadel. Only Shepard and Anderson state that the Reapers are still a threat. Besides the Council members are shown to be caricatures of politicians, so it should come as no surprise that had they recognised the existence of the Reapers they would go back on this once the immediate threat is over.

Seriously, there are a lot of questionable things in the ME serie and Bioware games in general but this is minor quibble at best.

 

I think the cinematic of project Lazarus has a shot from the perspective of the machine peeling Shepard off the side of the planet.

 

I don't know if it's this forum or the user, but I ain't uploading this shit again, even if it is too small.

 

A gay parade pic would be more appropriate

 

Damnit, man, it was no ordinary picture of a gay parade.

It was from a gay parade that happened today, and two fellows were carrying a banner emblazoned with the EA logo on a gay pride rainbow; it even had Commander Shepard on it.

It was a fine piece of internetting on my part, and now it's ruined forever.

Edit: oh, for some reason it's back again. Hmn.

 

EA viral marketing penetrating gay pride parades?

 

Don't you find Shepard's helmet planetside later on?

 

Meanwhile, in a place ME rips off all the time...



... Things make a helluva lot more sense.

 

Even if they managed to rebuild Shepard, how come Shepard has all knowledge and memories of previous Shepard? BioWare basically ripped off Dune's ancestral memory shtick, without the nuance that a newly born ghola needs to unlock memories of his/her previous life first through a severe mental shock. This could actually have been an interesting mechanic in Turd Effect 2 (they could have ripped off the Animus from AssCreed while they were at it), but of course BioWare didn't use this.

 

They scrapped Shep's awesome extra-crispy brain matter from across the entire crash site into a bucket and extracted the informashun from it using sufficiently large array of oscillating hands.

 

Mass Effect 3 and Bioware writers reminds me of Ed Wood for some reason...

 

Ed Wood was a real

 

Good point. I guessed the body crashed with the ship then.

If you have to copy something, copy the good stuff. No shame in that.

 

Didn't they find bits from the Columbia astronauts and when Challenger's crew hit the sea they were still intact enough to have had detailed autopsies done that suggested they were still alive at the point of impact(though unconscious)? Now it's a 1 in a million chance that something like the revival of Shepard could be possible, but when taking into account future tech and the 'luck' that all heroes in all heroic tales have(meaning that the hero will inevitably on more than one occasion be on the right side of such fantastical odds), then I don't see this resurrection as being all that improbable. Of all the myriad of gripes I have with ME, this is actually quite low on the list.

 

Technically, why wouldn't it? Shepard's ejection couldn't create that much of a velocity difference, if Normandy crashed so should Shepard.

And finally, even assuming there was a reason to have Shepard die, did he/she have to *crash* into a planet. Why not simply have Shepard's corpsicle and Normandy's wreck circling the planet in orbit prior to recovery of the former?

So what's the reason? Because the ability to say "I think Mass Effect is a pretty cool guy. Eh resruects from charred blot on a glacier and doesnt afraid of anything." doesn't quite cut it.

Don't know about Columbia, but Challenger wasn't reentering, its cockpit stayed pretty much intact right until impact and crew being alive was deduced from oxygen consumption as there were barely any bits left and even less found.

As for Columbia, replace damaged heat shield with shep's damaged suit and realize that there was much less Shepard to ablate than there was the shuttle (in terms of mass/heat capacity).

 

No guys don't you get it Shepard's personal shield protected them even though mass effect shields don't work that way.

 

Sigh. I was going to add that of course Challenger didn't actually re-enter but had assumed that that was obvious enough to not need explaining. The point was that they hit the ocean at what, 200G's and still were identifiable enough to have autopsies done on them and given to their respective families. From all the various reports, there was actually a decent amount of 'material' found. Less so with Columbia of course, but still, we're talking about Shepard; humanity's hero.

If anyone was going to make that 1 in a billion chance of entering the atmosphere at exactly the right angle after being snap frozen with a non-vital part of the body sealed exactly in the hole of the space suit to give those extra crucial milliseconds to get into the atmosphere and take the brunt of the burning up with the suit then tearing in exactly the right way to form a crude airbrake thus slowing down Shepard's descent while friendly gusts took him to land in the softest of snowdrifts, it was going to be him. To be honest, such things happen with heroes all the time.

 

Seriously, why the fuck not? It just works.

 

What the fuck is wrong with you people.

 

When subjected to horrid pressure of air compressed during reentry trying to push it out of the hole? With this air heating up so much it becomes plasma?

Also the non-vital part of the body sealing the hole would be neck. With quite a bit of luck it might be possible to retrieve Shepard's foot. Maybe even both.

 

I always thought that Shepard's body was in orbit and managed to stay pressurised long enough to minimise tissue damage. Then Liara and her friend picked up the body pretty quickly. Of course that doesn't explain how the helmet and chestplate wound up on the planet's surface, but I thought they were just spares. My Shepard picked up a lot of armour in ME1.

 

Can we all agree that it was pure scifi bullshit? I mean, we don't really need to discuss the detail of this fecal matter. Really it makes no sense like so many things in ME2. (GIANT SKELETON!!!!!)

 

NO!
But we can agree that it was pure bullshit.