The Mass Effect 3/BioWare Thread

And then we go into Dragon Age 2, where the game goes out of its way to make you feel as inept as it can.

Seriously, they may as well of renamed it: You were too late: The Game. Shit probably would've gone smoother for all parties involved if Flemeth just left the Hawke family to die at the beginning.

 

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if Flemeth saves the Dragon Age 3 protagonist from darkspawn too.

 

This.

Though if I was working BW, I would probably develop sudden obsession with designing firearm cartridges with increased effectiveness against morbidly obese people.

 

I wonder if her tits will double in size. Again.

 

But you don't even need to do that! Want to save everyone? Well then you fucking go grab one of the good wizards at the Circle Tower then and don't do that BLOOD MAGE WIZARD'S BLOOD MAGIC RITUAL YOU FUCKING MORON. That's basically what the game tells you. And the werewolves? Same thing! In the end you get a choice to side with the elves, the werewolves or the Lady of the Forest![/quote]

And its all such a waste too, especially the Redcliffe one. Sacrificing herself was the one selfless and non-retarded thing that mother did. Mind you, I remember that when you consider going to the Circle Tower, she says something about her son not staying put for long - it sounds so much like foreshadowing that I think BioWare cut the imperfection away. Like in some other moments of the game.

Though I somewhat disagree with how obvious the choice is with the dwarves. You'd think that Harrowmont's rule would be the most stable, as opposed to utter incompetence.

She's probably turn into a young adult love interest because SHAPESHIFTER.

 

Were we playing the same game? Both pretenders to the throne suffered from plot induced incompetence (also known as the Save-me-readily-available-mercenary-person syndrome"), but one of them was not a colossal moron. Also both were underhanded bastards, but only one of them pretended otherwise. Easy choice to make.

 

I'm talking about each character's competence as a sovereign, not about their ability to fund a small task force to brave the mines of Moria. From what you can gather in Ironforge itself, you'd think that both dwarves would lead it through conflict, given that they both apply extremist policies in their own right.

But one magically manages to support his throne on the backs of the miserable caste of thieves while opressing the ruling aristocracy and warrior caste, while the other is retarded. There's barely anything wrong with the prince's rule, whereas the general-pretender closes the city from the outside trade that, no doubt, always served as the basis of his own family's wealth.

 

I think I have misread your first post, because we seem to be in agreement that Harrowmont was an idiot.

 

That quest line was actually an for BioWare. That the lawful-good claimant is an idiot and a terrible choice for a ruler.

 

He's LN at best. IIRC if you keep the Forge intact and make him the ruler his first act is to have Bhelen turned into a golem, a fate previously presented by the game as being worse than death.

 

Uhhh I guess this would be a bad time to mention that I went with Harrowmont. And not for lulz purposes mind you.

 

Yes, but my issue is that Harrowmont is way too stupid while Bhelen is way too perfect. That makes the choice easy in retrospect. Especially since Bhelen's "drawback", "tyrany", means opression for the rulers and ponies for everyone else.

 

And also in agreement that there was no hard decision in choosing the ruler, as one was obviously superior to the other.

 

But you find that in the epilogue, not when the pc can make a choice of ruler, during which he's LG.

 

inb4 Flemeth shapeshifter romance DLC. Fun for all the fanbase. Tranflemeth, Furflemeth, Cisflemeth, Manflemeth, Lesflemeth, Virginflemeth, only 4.99 on Origin!

 

BiowarEA should invest in making their games compatible with usb fleshlights and dildoes. Just think of the added immersion!

 

OK GUYS WILL SOMEONE EXPLAIN.

How Mass Effect is supposed to make sense even to a foetus? I get Dragon Age, it makes some logical sense. Badly written such but still.
But Mass Effect.

At pretty much the dawn of time there was a super race called Leviathan. Plot ignores evolution taking a very long time. Ok.
They're assholes to everyone else. Plot again ignores another aspect of evolution. At some point they create a super AI called uh Catalyst, among other things.
AI says fuck this shit and takes over by creating Reapers. This AI is actually a good guy because his motive is to protect all life by destroying all life - because eventually sentient life creates AI that will take over and destroy sentient life. So hey, let's just destroy all sentient life because that MAKES SO MUCH SENSE. I could have understood this apparent machine logic if their motive had been destroy some life to preserve plants or shit - like some kinds of ecoterrorists.

Is Drew fucking retarded, because this shit was really already there in ME 1, or am I just not getting it? Now that I've atleast read the backstory from a wiki, why are people crying about the ending of ME 3? Which I haven't played. The whole fucking thing is insane. Why aren't you crying about everything?

 

You know, I will never ever play Mass Effect but I couldn't help and watch the endings that enabled me so much tear-drinking and free entertainment in the web. And as ignorant of the whole series as I am, that actually if you look at it as the long-term protection of organic life - "the cycle". They are not saving puppies, they are making sure that the universe never reaches a state where organic life cannot develop itself.

What doesn't make sense is precisely that optic. Why would those things, being machines themselves, look at a universe without organic life and see it without purpose of its own such that a cycle must be preserved?

 

Yeah and also, I don't understand why they couldn't just do a cheap cop out and say the cycles were there to ensure their own survival. Holy shit there BioWare, I'm a better writer than your professionals.

 

The Reapers were said to have unknowable reasons for the harvests the entire series. We had zero mention of the Leviathans until post ME3's ending in a DLC. And we had zero foreshadowing that the Reapers were harvesting all sentient organic life to keep them from creating AI's that would kill them until the last ten minutes of the game.

It was stupid. Idiioitic. Terrible.

The original idea that was roughly laid out by Drew before he left the writing in Mac Walters hands was that the use of eezo by sentient races was actually causing irreparable harm to the galaxy, causing stars to deteriorate more quickly, threatening all life. The Reapers were culling the races every 50,000 years to prevent the damage from reaching catastrophic levels. It was up to you to determine if you wanted to risk the entire galaxy from being crushed and see if you could figure out a solution to a problem a group of hyper advanced synthetic machines couldn't solve for millions of years or submit the races to the harvesting, in hopes that eventually a solution could be figured out and that the rest of the life in the galaxy had a chance to try as well.

I'm glad you didn't play the third game. Its endings were bad. And Bioware should feel bad.

 

Because that makes more sense?

 

Its Space Magic using Dark Matter and Distorting Gravity in Space.

Magic.

 

I see what you did there.

 

Hey hey hey, as much as I'd like to laugh at Bioware's ineptness when it comes to pretty much everything, you guys are grasping at straws here. They're using some undiscovered element in a setting that is pretty much outside the realm of contemporary science.

I don't see people hating on Gordon Freeman being removed from the time-space continuum for 10 years.

 

Oh, that almost makes more sense. Except eezo, and the technology it runs was Reaper-made and they pretty much gave you a plate of it and said eat it. So, please people don't use eezo it's dangeraz. But please have all this tech that runs on eezo anyway. We just kill u.