The Mass Effect 3/BioWare Thread

Well, duh?

 

"Your honor, at this point the plaintiff moves to submit People’s exhibit A into evidence.”

"You may proceed."

 

Well i just took work time off to play ME3 for the first time, having been very fond of ME1 and ME2. I thought ME3 was pretty good other than the depressing ending. Yes i am one of those who wants a happy ending to my escapist fantasies. I do not see the point of trying to stay alive the whole game to be written off like a redundant soap actor at the end of the series.

Leaving aside the ridiculousness of this lawsuit against Bioware, for me, the sin Bioware committed, and why i think so many people got upset is that they used a really crap justification at end of series to "move on", regardless of how all those folks emotionally invested in Shepard. That´s the real killer, that it feels he dies no matter your ending. If i want that sort of post game depression I´ll just go spend some time on a terminal patient ward at the local hospital.

I think the whole space boy narration bit is almost an easter-egg because they use the same rationale about the reapers sort of weeding the organic garden to keep them from becoming too chaotic, as Bioware´s commercial decision to off the Shepard series and pretty well any connection to it.

Bioware has made it absolutely clear...you are to forget Shepard, move along, nothing to see here. And for sure this decision to end Shepard was Bioware´s and theirs alone. I suspect EA were against killing off Shepard. Would Apple kill off the i-phone while there is still huge demand for it? Or howabout heinz stops making baked beans. Its an insane proposition. So there must have been really strong reasons to kill Shepard arc off and i reckon it was the development would be chaotic going forward dealing with everyones LI or whatever.

Easier to wipe the slate, just like the Reapers. But hey i still think on the whole its one of the greatest series in gaming history. They created a very cool, sexy universe, which at times felt alive, but i still think killing off Shepard in such a permanent way was a big mistake. Its going to be really hard to resurrect him in the future, and if ME 4 is a flop, EA will demand a new game with Shepard, no matter how crazy that sounds now.

 

Just the sort of post this thread needed.

 

I like how you said a whole lot by saying so little about Biodrones and co.

 

To be fair, I wouldn't expect such a success even if they were trying to be horrible on purpose.

 

The bar isnt set very high. They took an uncompromising pure faggotry posture. Mass effect 4 will have to settle things once and for all tho.

IT was their obvious intent, too many things done deliberately to be lazy design, if it was they wouldnt even exist in the game to begin with.

 

History (and shitty video game writing) has a habit of repeating itself:

 

Nah, it just means that in the next space tavern we'll meet a stranger named Bommander Bhepard.

 

I think ketchup would've been a better example.

 

To be fair killing of Kal'Reegar in the e-mail section when they made such fuss about him dying or suriving in ME2, was kinda shitty.
But turning EDI into sex-bot was also kinda shitty.
And adding Javik as a DLC so he didn't have any impact on the story was shitty too.
Hmmm... I'm begining to see a pattern here.

 

Don't worry in the Citadel DLC they established that Shepard was cloned, so they'll just bring another Shep-clone back. BUT, BUT... This one will be controlled by the Leviathans. Yes. The Leviathans was in his mind so, they will upload all the memories of Shepard up to the point when he met them. So the Shepard clone will think that he is the real Shepard and that he does good, but he will also be indoctrinated. So Shep-clone 2.0 will be the main antagonist in ME4. I know it!

 

That sounds... depressingly like what Bioware will do. Or they find another Shepard clone and recruit them to lead yet another team to protect the galaxy.

But to be fair: I loved the story of Citadel. There was actual suspense, and a mystery, and something interesting going on! It was like I was playing Mass Effect 1 all over again, but with better gameplay!

 

2014 - a year of hoep.

 

The whole last level/s from Priority earth til the end is terribly lazy, all of it. But not sure that proves they intended to go with the IT ending.

 

Ya that really pissed me off, and it comes right near the end of the game i think just before cerberus HQ, as if things are not depressing enough by that point.

 

But to be fair: I loved the story of Citadel. There was actual suspense, and a mystery, and something interesting going on! It was like I was playing Mass Effect 1 all over again, but with better gameplay![/quote]

Really? I thought Citadel was ok, but the party stuff and even the super shallow meets in the silversun strip or whatever it was called were boring. At the party it felt really sad, reminded me of that comedy with the guy who throws parties with a bunch of cardboard cutout guests. It felt silly.

Also i think the gag a minute was over the top. It started feeling like Bioware was not just taking the piss out of the series and itself, but indirectly the player too.

 

I can't believe you guys actually played the citadel dlc. Let alone leave the game installed long enough to even consider playing it.

 

Yawn. Bioware cannot into (intentional) humour.

That's common knowledge since at least MDK2.

 

Nope, its shit, but lazy it isnt.

 

Well i bought Citadel dlc but wish i had not bothered now. But yes it was pretty trash on the whole. Felt really franchisey and slapstick.

 

Same here. This DLC and Leviathan should have been part of the game. I bought both ME1 and ME2 DLCs, but after completing the story of ME3, it pretty much felt there was no point at all to play some expansions.

 

I think that´s a little harsh. In fact i think Bioware are better at dialogue than actual stories. I think their dialogue is best of class in the game industry. And there were some amusing gags during the core part of the ME series. For instance Conrad was pretty funny, and some of Shepard´s one liners were pretty good. Maybe saying Bioware´s dialogue is better than most is not much of a bar to jump, but its one of the few games with alot of dialogue which i was not always space barring through like crazy. For instance i find Bethesda dialogue totally boring and banal.

Was Leviathan any good?

I was interested if anyone else like me, has always played as the standard off the shelf Shepard character? I just never felt it was the type of game to create a new character because IMO Shepard was one the best things in the whole series. I know some folks say they loved the Universe not Shepard so they aren´t upset he´s not coming back. I can say honestly one of the main things i hate about this game is the sort of forced retirement of Shepard. I liked the guy´s voice, it fit his features, i liked his sort of sarcasm at times, depending on dialogue choices. I thought he was really a well rounded creation and felt legit to me.

 

Bioware's great at unintentional humor like that awkward punch animation in ME1's intro if you decide to knock out that one colonist. That one had me LOLing.