The Mass Effect 3/BioWare Thread

Bethesda dialogue is often soulless and banal but at least its purpose is usually just to convey information which is why it is mostly neutral and uninteresting whereas Bioware dialogue is almost always immature and quite often cringe-inducing. The characters speak and act like high schoolers or even younger and it is especially annoying that despite your wishes your own character will also be guilty of this. Mass Effect dialogue actually might just be the worst I've seen from Bioware. I would consider neither Bethesda nor Bioware to be anywhere near "best of class" when it comes to dialogue (or anything really.)

Compare KOTOR 1 and 2 to each other and you'll see the difference between Bioware's dialogue and dialogue that is at least somewhat competent. Obsidian is probably near the top in the game industry though they are pretty obviously no masters either in the wider world.

 

Leviathan had some interesting ideas and some unsettling stuff here and there, plus I promise that I do not lie when I say the scene with the DLC's climax has the most atmosphere out of the entire series, and the part leading directly up to it was, while very short, quite interesting.

 

Dragon Age is much worse. Believe me - I've talked to Alistair and found the spider queen or whatever is she called.

True. And KOTOR is one of the better Bio's games. I wonder why - it seems unlikely that Bio cannot hire decent writers, they have a lot of money and I think many talented people would gladly work for them. Probably they just don't want to bother, because their audience isn't really interested in good story/dialogue.

 

Allow me to spare you the experience:

Hur dur citadel reaper stuff derp water planet herpaderp underwater mjolnir sequence durkadurka giant cuttlefish made the reapers derkaderkaderka bioware is retarded news at eleven bakkalakadakkamuhammedjihad

 

Shepard is full retard in Leviathan. He/she/it doesn't realize a whole base is indoctrinated until told by EDI.

"What's going on here?" "These people are acting really odd."

No shit Shepard!

 

Shepard is pretty much always fooled by any form of mind control until it's spelled out for him.

 

[Perception]: Perhaps this is a subtle analogy of Bioware fans?

 

No, just bad writing.

 

How often did they actually use the mind control plot?

 

Off the top of my head: Zhu's Hope, both Saren and that asari chick, several times in Saren's base, the collectors (depending on your definition), the derelict reaper (although they're all dead), the Arrival DLC, and a few people in ME3 (although not as many as you might expect, all things considered).

So yeah, several times each game.

 

Mind control/indoctrination in ME is mostly used as a plot linearizer/choice nullifier, mook generator and license to kill(ex. Udina and TIM).

 

Except that these are just some inconsistencies selectively picked from the story while the IT was at the time the only explanation that actually made any sense out of the totally absurd and abstract epilogue.

 

Exactly. There's no way to disprove it, though, because the people who believe it cling so tightly to those inconsistencies they refuse to consider anything that contradicts their viewpoint. It's sad, really - they're so desperate to believe the game had really good and subtle writing that they'll justify the most outlandish theories on nothing more than a few pieces of flimsy evidence and some inconsistencies, despite there being no actual evidence in or out of game that the writers intended it. It's why I gave up on this argument - there's no winning against these people, they'll always have another asspull. It's like trying to have a political conversation with a 9/11 truther.



Wait, what were we talking about again?

 

Chemtrails, man...

 

Because overwhelming evidence points towards it. Still havent heard anything that contradicts it, and its more fitting than the DST (Drowned Sheep Theory), as the internal logic of the game supports it.

 

I thought BioWare actually discarded the IT during development. Which means that, while may be a solid form of interpreting the games, it is still most likely derived from the optics of despaired fanboys during the Ending debacle. The theory was, after all, developed in order to show how the endings weren't shit instead of reinterpreting the rest of the game.

 

Nope, never discarded it. What they discarded was the black energy ending, but that was a long way back, before ME3 i think, and because it got leaked.

 

Jesus.... its that retarded and people bought the dlc?

 

I thought the overwhelming evidence pointed to BioWare pushing out an enormous literary shitnugget.

But hey, it's okay, they'll retcon it to fit the fanbase theories in ME4, just like Valve has built HL2 "universe" on top of hundreds of fan theories. And then the fans will be happeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey~ nya.

 

If those theories won't be my theories I won't be happy. I want my Samara, Dr Chakwas, Shepard threeway mature post-game relationship.
I suspect other Bioware fans would rage about stuff like that too. They are too retarded to even have a hive-mind so any theory that contradicts their head canons will drive they insane.

 

What does the Biowhore Lord Faggot Gaydar have to say about Indoctrination theory?

 

Would have to be something along the liens of:

"We really appreciate the dedication of our amazing fans, but we can't make a definitive comment."

So nothing, really. Standard pr dribble.

 

Some time ago during the thanksgiving Gayder wrote on his Twitter that if he eats some more mashed potatoes he will explode. Or some shit like that.

And I responded with - "Considering you wrote Fenris, please do".

And for some reason he started following my account and then a day later, stopped. This still is one of my proudest moments of trolling Bioware like a retard.

EDIT: Later not earlier, I'm a retard.

 

Hah!