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Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Humanity has risen!, Apr 6, 2010.

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What is the best Might & Magic game in the series?

  1. Might and Magic: Book I

    13 vote(s)
    2.3%
  2. Might and Magic II: Gates to Another World

    22 vote(s)
    3.8%
  3. Might and Magic III: Isles of Terra

    47 vote(s)
    8.2%
  4. Might and Magic: World of Xeen

    143 vote(s)
    24.8%
  5. Might and Magic: Swords of Xeen

    5 vote(s)
    0.9%
  6. Might and Magic VI: The Mandate of Heaven

    163 vote(s)
    28.3%
  7. Might and Magic VII: For Blood and Honor

    102 vote(s)
    17.7%
  8. Might and Magic VIII: Day of the Destroyer

    20 vote(s)
    3.5%
  9. Might and Magic IX

    6 vote(s)
    1.0%
  10. Might and Magic X

    55 vote(s)
    9.5%
  1. Eggs is eggs Learned

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    It's pretty amazing how they honed the same, great style of gameplay in MM1 and 2 and added in VGA graphics, music and mouse support with MM3. I guess the combats got a lot shallower but I didn't miss fighting 66 devil kings and stuff like that in the earlier games.
     
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  2. newtmonkey Arcane

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    Might & Magic 1
    Slowly catching up to my previous party, this time with much better stats. The early game was much easier, but I'm now noticing how brutal the level scaling is.

    I actually starting exploring C2 immediately after I finished exploring Sorpigal, so my characters were a mix of level 1 and level 2, since I didn't grind at all. I had no problems at all with C2, and even was able to walk over to Erliquin and back without issue.

    After that, I returned back to Sorpigal, cleared the dungeon there, did some more exploring, and did the first courier quest from Sorpigal to Erliquin. This left me with everyone at level 3 or 4.

    Now I'm lucky if I can even walk to Erliquin in one piece lol. It seems every other random encounter (even on "roads") has some mix of clerics, sprites, minor devils, or swarms—and unlike when I was around level 2, the game never lets me run from encounters now. So, any encounter with any of those enemies is basically a party wipe.

    I think level 3-5 is pretty rough in this game because the random encounters scale up to enemies with devastating special abilities (clerics: paralyze, swarms+minor devils: AOE attacks, sprites: curse), while you are still basically forced to rely on physical damage since you won't have access to AOE spells until your sorcerer reaches level 6. Sleep is a massive help around party level 1-3, but most of the scaled up enemies are partially or completely resistant to sleep, so that sucks.

    I'm trying to avoid just walking around popping fixed encounters to grind levels, so I guess I'm gonna check out the wilderness area south of Erliquin and see if it's not more level-appropriate. I might have to go back to my early game strategy of exploring, fighting/winning one battle, then rushing back to a town to save... at least until I get fireball and things get a lot easier.

    [Edit] "I might have to go back to my early game strategy of exploring, fighting/winning one battle, then rushing back to a town to save..."
    ^ This is working well. The area south of Erliquin is not bad, and I was able to explore a bit and get some nice equipment in chests. Meanwhile, I've started marking fixed encounters so I can tell at a glance if I defeated them or need to come back later on.
     
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  3. newtmonkey Arcane

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    Might & Magic 1

    Put a few hours into this today, getting really addicted. I had it open all day in the background so I could play while waiting for data for process in between jobs :)

    I finally got to level 5 for my sorcerer, so now I have AOE spells, which opens up a ton of the gameworld. Previously impossible fixed encounter squares are now very manageable indeed.

    A lucky drop of a flying carpet also meant that I could head to Dusk to continue the quest chain and load up on magic equipment. We are kicking some ass now for real (it will soon end).

    I have to say, of all the games I have played from this era, M&M1 is the one where stats are really important early on. The difference between my current party (the pregen party) and the previous one I retired (which I rolled myself with mediocre stats) is night and day. My Paladin and Knight hit more often than not and do great damage, and buffing them with bless and that one SORC spell that buffs might makes them even more powerful. However, the absolute most important thing is to have a sorcerer with a high speed stat so that he gets to go first every round; this makes a MASSIVE difference in your ability to survive tough early battles.

    One question:

    How does the hermit work in M&M1? When I agree to trade wares, it replaces every single item in the backpack of every single character with garbage. How do you get around that since you'll be carrying around quest items, keys, etc. throughout the game?

    I just created an extra character sitting at the inn to hold all my items, and went and took care of this. Is that pretty much the solution?
     
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  4. Strange Fellow Arcane Patron

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    Yep.
    Don't you have the Fly spell?
     
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  5. newtmonkey Arcane

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    lol I do! I didn't bother checking the spell list in the manual since I remembered all the important spells, and for some reason I was thinking it was a level 4 spell.
     
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  6. Filthy Sauce Savant

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    I was thinking about starting up mm8. Are dragons the only 'class' to stay away from if I don't want to break the game?
     
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  7. Sceptic Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    I thought he only replaced the items for the character in the first slot? It's not all garbage, he does give you items you will need. Best way to deal with him (whether he does trade only one char or all of them) is to make dummy PCs in the inn to hold your stuff then go find him with nothing valuable in your inventory.
     
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  8. newtmonkey Arcane

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    For some reason he did it to all my characters, not just the first slot (I looked it up after and apparently it's just supposed to be the character in the first slot? so maybe it's a bug). I eventually created a dummy character at the inn to hold my stuff so I could get the pirate maps.
     
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  9. Incendax Augur

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    Dragons and Dark Elves completely trivialize the early and mid game. Dragons more than Dark Elves of course. Late game everyone gets OP, even the lowly Minotaur.
     
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  10. Cyberarmy Love fool Patron

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    8th game is really easy even without a dragon and kinda short comparing to 6 and 7
     
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  11. Lacrymas Arcane

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    Didn't the publishers force an M&M game every year? The length shouldn't be surprising.
     
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  12. KeighnMcDeath Learned

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    Grid Cartographer

    I love djoldgames. I recently found this site as i needed mac Xyphus, shadowgate, gemstone warrior, and ultima II.I do love mouse support in games and its a pity rereleases of some games weren't tweaked to use it.
    Macintosh Game Repository

    Btw, did anyone like NES MMI? Maybe someone did in all these pages.

    Thinking on the earlier posts on mapping games with no automap there is grid cartographer and like programs.
     
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  13. KeighnMcDeath Learned

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    I nearly forgot about the turbogfx and super famicon versions.



    Why is it some Japanese games have pictures or partial inventories in english and the rest in japanese. Just make bilingual games already.
     
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  14. No Great Name Cipher

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    I played the DOS version from GOG of MM1 and I remember the hermit replacing everyone's inventory with junk items except for those two quest items you need.
     
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  15. KeighnMcDeath Learned

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    I forgot about that dude. Great, a reminder of the hobos/beggars/homeless in the street with carts of crap/junk like a damn wahon train.
     
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  16. Sacibengala Savant

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    All games, except X, are dirty cheap on gog today. If anyone still didn't got it.
     
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  17. KeighnMcDeath Learned

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    MMX only on steam? Why the hell didn't gog pick this up?

    Steam is having a MMX sale 75% off

    Gog is 66% off all heroes & MM1-9
     
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  18. Efe Scholar

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  19. Sacibengala Savant

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    If you get all of them, the discount goes to 85% The GOG ones.
     
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  20. cvv Arcane Patron

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    It's a Ubi game, Ubi doesn't sell on GOG.
     
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  21. Lacrymas Arcane

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    I have all the M&M + Heroes games on GOG with the exception of M&M9. It's 89 cents for me and I still won't pick it up, lol.
     
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  22. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Yet you play garbage like mmx....
     
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  23. Lacrymas Arcane

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    MMX is not garbage.
     
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  24. Sacibengala Savant

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    Rayman origins is on gog.
     
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  25. MajorMace Learned

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    Plus, it's "only on steam but". You need the ubi software on top of steam. And it's a terribly bad one.
    Unlike Epic.

    This post was sponsored.
     
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