Might and Magic The Might and Magic Discussion Thread

[Wyrmlord]

Well, then you keep working hard at your job, so that the legendarily unachievable single stretch marathon MM6-9 LP remains as far as possible from a mortal's grasp.

 

[Wulfstand]

It's been achieved mate, for quite a long time too. MM1-8, 9 half done I guess.
The hero's name's RPGenie.

 

[Luzur]

http://www.celestialheavens.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7154

Haha, in the poll at Celestial Heaven virtually no one picked III, IV or V.[/quote

i voted MMIII

but those guys are M&M6-8 younglings, mostly, its just me and like 2 other guys that promote MM3-5.

EDIT: noticed i typed M&M II instead of III.

Then why don't you try promoting the games instead of letting VI-VIII overshadow everything else? It seems like these guys are practically unaware of their existence.

"OMG you youngsters get off your butts, dust off the M&M pack you got on GOG and try III, IV, and V. Here's why you should..."

You could even post a link to this thread.

I'm playing III right now and I'm so glad I did. It's simple, colorful and so beautiful, and there are a lot more features than in VI.

http://www.celestialheavens.com/forums/ ... 968#289968

good enough?

 

[Sceptic]

legendarily unachievable single stretch marathon MM6-9 LP

6-9 is very achievable. As I said a legendary one would be MM1-9 & HOMM1-4 with expansions. That would be epic.

The hero's name's RPGenie.

Within 2 seconds of the first video he calls MM1 "Gates to another world"
Seriously, thanks for the link. This could be fun.

good enough?

Weird. Your writing style there is completely different.

 

[Luzur]

what? its regular RPGcodex GD style.

btw, anyone else installed MM6 with that TCC mod? im on part 2 now and....its got so damn boring, having to trudge through millions of 3500+HP Wyverns, Rocs and Sylphs on empty maps.

 

[Lonely Vazdru]

what? its regular RPGcodex GD style.

btw, anyone else installed MM6 with that TCC mod? im on part 2 now and....its got so damn boring, having to trudge through millions of 3500+HP Wyverns, Rocs and Sylphs on empty maps.

I'm playing part 1 and loving it, but I've already planned to forfeit part two. Looks like a stupid ego trip over a boring endless ocean. Even those who enjoy it make it sound dreadful : "OMG zillions of dragons ! Teh fun !".

 

[Tails]

MM3 is pretty awesome, for a simple dungeon crawler. Yet the worst thing is inventory system, and overall shopping. It's just irritating that I need to enter shop and identify item, like normal sword to get exact statistics. Equipping & removing also is badly done. The game maybe was released in 1991, but still, simple inventory improvements, like allowing player to check weapon stats, remove equipped item when switching to different one from same category, should be rather obvious for Devs.

 

[Luzur]

what? its regular RPGcodex GD style.

btw, anyone else installed MM6 with that TCC mod? im on part 2 now and....its got so damn boring, having to trudge through millions of 3500+HP Wyverns, Rocs and Sylphs on empty maps.

I'm playing part 1 and loving it, but I've already planned to forfeit part two. Looks like a stupid ego trip over a boring endless ocean. Even those who enjoy it make it sound dreadful : "OMG zillions of dragons ! Teh fun !".

imagine bigs maps (put together Blackshire and Freehaven into one map) and fill it with trees, rocks and ALOT of enemies (like 20 in every enemy group and also very close to eachother so you get 40+ enemy hordes coming at you) and no gold, food or loot anywhere, or civilization .

 

[Sceptic]

MM3 is pretty awesome, for a simple dungeon crawler. Yet the worst thing is inventory system, and overall shopping. It's just irritating that I need to enter shop and identify item, like normal sword to get exact statistics. Equipping & removing also is badly done. The game maybe was released in 1991, but still, simple inventory improvements, like allowing player to check weapon stats, remove equipped item when switching to different one from same category, should be rather obvious for Devs.

I can't think of any CRPG that had all these features in 1991 so I guess I can forgive MM3's UI, and besides it's still simpler to use than some highly acclaimed games from the 2000s. I stopped needing to identify items after a while, since you eventually figure out what each prefix does and the bonus provided by each material. And equipping works alright, items being automatically removed would've been pretty stupid for things like rings when you can equip up to 8 of them.

what? its regular RPGcodex GD style.

Yeah but you don't usually write in regular GD style (thankfully).

imagine bigs maps (put together Blackshire and Freehaven into one map) and fill it with trees, rocks and ALOT of enemies (like 20 in every enemy group and also very close to eachother so you get 40+ enemy hordes coming at you) and no gold, food or loot anywhere, or civilization .

That sounds dreadful. How does part 1 compare?

 

[Luzur]

what? its regular RPGcodex GD style.

Yeah but you don't usually write in regular GD style (thankfully).

sometimes i step out of my serious dress and go wild, thats all.

imagine bigs maps (put together Blackshire and Freehaven into one map) and fill it with trees, rocks and ALOT of enemies (like 20 in every enemy group and also very close to eachother so you get 40+ enemy hordes coming at you) and no gold, food or loot anywhere, or civilization .

That sounds dreadful. How does part 1 compare?

feels like a new game, new monsters, new NPCs, new quests, the works.
its still the same game area-wise, New Sorpigal is still New Sorpigal.

too bad BDJ didnt change some of that, since he can clearly create new maps.

had to use a editor and cheat myself way high stats/skills and blaster rifles, so i could fly around with guns blazing at all those hordes in part 2, there is so much enemies its the only way you can survive for longer periods while searching for something to click.

 

[JarlFrank]

what? its regular RPGcodex GD style.

Yeah but you don't usually write in regular GD style (thankfully).

sometimes i step out of my serious dress and go wild, thats all.

 

[Luzur]

we all need some moments were we can relax and cast off the cloaks of seriousness.

 

[DaveO]

I'm unemployed and likelier a better candidate for a MM6 thru MM8 LP session. I also was part of the MM8 Lord Brinne Tribute. I've held off on my MM8 character creation video due to my Wizard's Crown LP. I'm camped outside Tarmon's Palace for my second run.

P.S. - I'm not a fool and won't attempt a MM9 LP due to the fact that RPGenie has not posted a video for a long time, and I suspect MM9 had a lot to do with him not making any videos.

 

[Sceptic]

I'm unemployed and likelier a better candidate for a MM6 thru MM8 LP session.

THIS IS NOT A PROPER MIGHT AND MAGIC MARATHON. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE.

I also was part of the MM8 Lord Brinne Tribute.

I'm still impressed that NWC put the Tomb of Lord Brinne in the game, considering the whole thing would have made no sense whatsoever to anyone who wasn't on the forums. They were really in touch with their fans.

 

[Lurkar]

7 introduced Arcomage, which is pretty much the only enjoyable minigame in any RPG that has ever existed, so it has that going for it.

 

[Cynicus]

Run install and try the Sound Canvas driver instead of LAPC/MT-32.

I should've been more specific - it's the Sound Canvas option that does this. Works fine with MT-32 option, except I don't have an MT-32 and the emulators don't sound quite right.

Ah, sorry. You had mentioned the MT-32 just before that and I assumed that was the setting you were using. If your sound card supports soundfonts, you could try loading a different GM bank. It might at least make the obnoxious sfx more tolerable if nothing else.

 

[Paula Tormeson IV]

7 introduced Arcomage, which is pretty much the only enjoyable minigame in any RPG that has ever existed, so it has that going for it.

Final Fantasy 8 has a fun card mini-game. Really good, especially since you can, of course, collect those cards and find rare ones etc.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Wow. Started M&M6 today.

It sure is after 3-5. Especially the borked combat system, no races and only 6 classes.

 

[Mastermind]

Wow. Started M&M6 today.

It sure is after 3-5. Especially the borked combat system, no races and only 6 classes.

Burn in hell heretic.

 

[dr. one]

Wow. Started M&M6 today.

It sure is after 3-5.

it sure is. tedious borefest left and right. 7 is quite a bit better.

 

[hoverdog]

It might seem so, but the previous ones weren't too complicated in the first place (especially compared to wizardry).
M&M6 has 3d (say what you must, i find it a drastic improvement to cell-scape games), interesting gameplay, lots of great dungeons, great and balanced spell system (apart from light&dark magic, which is gimped) and a sense of epicness. I think this is my favourite. Part 7 may have more classes, races and great light/dark path, but invisibility kinda broke the game.
M&M8 is pretty meh, 9 is crap.

 

[Sceptic]

It sure is after 3-5. Especially the borked combat system, no races and only 6 classes.

These things are declined over 3-5, yes. The skill system is also borked and will be fixed in 7. But it has a very nice world design (much better than 7's) and the best dungeons in the series. Since M&M is pretty much all about exploring an interesting world and dungeon crawling...

 

[Darth Roxor]

Since M&M is pretty much all about exploring an interesting world and dungeon crawling...

It would be all fine and dandy if the combat wasn't so broken, which is mostly due to the 3D. Enemies attacking me through walls is annoying. The fact that the monsters have kinda retarded AI which can be exploited ridiculously easy is also pretty stupid. I also fucking hate the fact that you CAN'T MOVE IN TURN-BASED MODE (or am I fucking missing something here?) which makes engaging enemies that are standing a little behind the stuff you currently killed counter-intuitive and just plain annoying.

Meh, another thing that is kinda sucky is that the game lost its nerdy charm that was present in large numbers in the previous parts. I mean, what are the first monsters you met in 3-5? Moose rats, bubblemen and shitloads of other completely over the top enemies followed soon. Here? Goblins, bats, spiders, mages. MEH. Give me back my iron wizards.

 

[SkeleTony]

Might & Magic VII easily for me. Nostalgia aside, it had the best graphics(which are of little import except to say that one of the great things about NWC's (Heroes of)M&M games is the atmosphere...the unparalleled music + the look of their better games.
Dungeon design was pretty damned good, the game system(debuting in M&M 6) was better than most CRPG systems, multiple races(that M&M 6 lacked), fun classes.

Just the overall FEEL of the game is remarkable! Running around from one city/zone to another looking for the elusive "master" and "grandmaster" skill trainers while completing quests...just a great game.

 

[Archibald]

Can we track down and maim those 2 faggots who voted for IX?

I`m more of a homm fan and 6-8 had closer relationship with it so i prefer those and obvioously 7 is the best one. I remember launching it just to play some acromage matches, can`t say that i launched any other game just to play its minigame for 1-2 hours. 6 was good but imo 7 did almost everything better and 8, well 8 had some intereseting ideas but blew them.