Fallout The original Fallout is the Mortal Kombat of CRPGs

No one said Fallout 4 is more tactical. No Fallout game was ever tactical, apart from Fallout Tactics (and that is why it tanked commercially, it introduced tactics into an easy mode game and people didn't like it).

The "improvement" in Fallout 4 is that you don't have to spend 50 minutes per fight just because a couple of children run around throwing rocks during their turns while you fight some assholes nearby. The improvement is that by the time you end a 10 person fight in Fallout 1, you have eliminated 3-4 enemy settlements in Fallout 4, and it was more enjoyable to do so, with better graphics and action.

 

Talks about an all time great RPG in terms of combat only.

 

What else is there except combat? Oh, you mean a couple of noncombat actions you can do in the whole game? A few dialogue choices and stuff? Fallout 4 has a bazillion more of those, you just don't see it because you don't give it a chance. Everything the originals have, Fallout 4 has more of. Embrace the Fallout 4. Embrace the pinnacle of CRPG design.

 

I don't know what you wrote there, but I saw it as:

"The improvement is that by the time you have sex with the real woman, I jerked of 3-4 times, and it was more enjoyable to do so, with better graphics and action."

 

There is something clearly wrong with your perception then... The real analogy is:

Fallout 4: Normal sex with a woman
Original Fallout: Take a turn to unzip pants, next turn put condom, next turn spread her legs, next turn thrust your penis inside her vagina, next turn pull it back a little, next turn push again, ad nauseum until a few hundrend turns later you ejaculate. All the while the game calculates every single movement in the neighborhood between each turn.

The reason for this analogy is that the "turn based analysis" of the situation adds no detail in comparison to the real time action combat of Fallout 4. You are doing the exact same things you are doing in the original Fallout, and taking the exact same decisions. It is just in real time and natural, instead of sperging it with dice rolls to pretend you are smart.

 

The good thing about this thread is we are all going to die one day.

 

So many quality posters MIA and we get this retard back?

Truly there is no justice in the world.

 

Modern standards are shit. That's part of the modern problem.

 

I am a Christian. Jesus will resurrect me. Don't know about you though.

 

Yeah, knowing where enemies are makes a difference. Enemies can very well swarm you in Fallout if you are not careful, whereas in Fallout 4 triggering a single enemy triggers the whole building.

I don't see the problem.

You mean one of the most useless systems ever devised? Don't fool yourself. Weapon modding in Fallout 4 is just marketing speak for "wow cool gun". Meanwhile in Fallout and Fallout: New Vegas, ammo selection made a difference in how you dealt with enemies.
What is the "tactical" aspect of Fallout 4, exactly, seeing as you praise it over Fallout?

 

I don't know what he's talking about but if he's doing it in the name of passion and love for something then more power to him. It's important to speak up about something when you feel the passion. And some codex cunts shouldn't stop you from that just because they give you discouraging ratings.

 

1. In Fallout 4 you don't trigger the whole building. There is a maximum distance that enemies can be notified. Why keep posting fake news about Fallout 4 and the originals? Have you actually played those games, or you just watched videos on youtube?

2. you don't see a problem that you can get armors that turn the game into godmode? Yet you claim those games are "tactical"? You realise this is an oxymoron, right? You don't even have to get a power armor, even getting a metal or combat armor can make you much, much tougher to kill. In essence, your power curve has more to do with the armor item you put into 1 slot, than any decision you make into your character building. This is your "tactical" SUPERIOR RRRRRRPEEEEEEGEEEE? Give me a break....

3. The weapon modding system in Fallout 4 is one of its selling points. You can craft many, many types and subtypes of weapons, much more than the originals ever had, and they feel different while using them too. Even the basic "pipe gun" can be modded into perhaps 20 different types of weapons, depending on your style. Ammo is just "give a small buff/debuff" and is far more limited.

4. Fallout 4 is not a tactical game. It is a roleplaying game. Exactly like Fallout 1 and 2. That is why there are no tactics involved. You just point and shoot, and the only choices you make is who to shoot and where to aim. And what to wear. It is just that you hypocrites put the original Fallouts into a pedestal and refuse to accept the fact that Fallout 1 and 2 are not "deep tactical games".

 

Wait. Never mind. He's an idiot. Games don't become outdated. That's ridiculous. Graphics become outdated but games are just numbers and numbers are eternal and always work the same. If a game was ever worth playing it's always worth playing. Just because it's not shiny doesn't change anything except the fact that it's not shiny. Old people were completely capable of writing, designing, making rpg and character systems. Fallout is a great game. Anyone who judges an old game's worth based on how it looks is a criminal in the eyes of the industry and gaming.

 

Dude, are you on drugs? Of course games become outdated. It is not just about the graphics, although graphics are VERY important for role playing games (that is why you hypocrites put late 90s (and onwards) games unto a pedestal and not the original early 80s Ultima games...). Game design gets outdated as well. New ideas and more powerful hardware make better games, thus the older games become inferior to play, not just graphically, but in gameplay as well. That is the reality.

In other words, Fallout of 1997 is exactly the same game that it was in 1997. BUT, in 2020 there have been many better games on the market, thus it is obsolete to play. If you have 100 hours to spend on a game, it is better to spend them playing Fallout 4, than playing Fallout 1.

 

I don't play shit, so I haven't played Fallout 4. But I have seen many people who do play Fallout 4 make this criticism about the game's enemies, turning dungeons into shooting galleries.

1. Power Armor is only God mode against normal, low-level enemies.
2. Because this is a cRPG, even having the best armor of the game doesn't stop Super Mutants being able to one-shot you if they land a critical hit on you. Which, since they are often found in packs, becomes easier and easier as you near the end of the game.

All feedback I see on the weapon modding system points otherwise, with many people claiming all guns feel samey.
Meanwhile, ammo variantions are the difference between your bullets bouncing off Deathclaws and being able to kill the suckers.

Well at least you acknowledge Fallout 4 has no tactics. Meanwhile I continue to see people struggling with Fallout 1's cave rats, but I'm guessing if you say there's no tactics involved they must have gotten a defective copy of the game because there's no explanation as to how Codexers can easily sweep the cave and others continue to die on them.

 

WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You admit you haven't played Fallout 4, you SPERG, yet you criticize and compare it based on "other people's opinions"? I am done. I am done with you. And sheeple on this forum have the AUDACITY to call me "retard" and "troll", while you spergs comment on games you haven't played.

 

The PA suits were top tier military weaponry; human tanks. The majority of enemies are thugs with light guns & melee weapons.

The PA makes the player character a physical match for a super mutant.

lol

Bethesda cannot make an RPG (by policy). RPGs evaluate (the PC) for when to refuse actions; IE. when to say, 'no'.
Bethesda will not intentionally refuse, or surprise the player. Their "Player Characters" are more akin to digital costumes, than as world inhabitants with personal strengths, goals, a past, and (most importantly) their weaknesses. With them, the PC is a vestigial necessity of RPGs that they are keen to get rid of. Just examine their work in linear order; they have a pattern/agenda of PC simplification, with the obvious intent to replace the PC with the player—that's not roleplaying.

What game did YOU play?

I'll admit that too. It's a taint I wouldn't be able to live down.
*But I have seen enough videos of it.

 

My cover is blown.

 

There you have it. Another spoiled gamer whose attention span was destroyed by playing too much popamolized rubbish. Woo-wee. Somebody show him some explosions, quickly

 

That is a cop-out egress, usually used to avoid proving one's argument.

 

Unlike you, most people here are genre veterans with a few decades of playing these games under their belt. So no, you debilitated cretin, you don't have to eat shit to know how it tastes like. Isn't god great?

 

Put another way... one can see where it's coming from, and know that it's unfit for consumption.


This was the prediction for FO3:

 

Wow, what an amazing discovery, man! Obviously, nobody in this forum has been able to replay Fallout 1 since 1999 and the great Y2K crisis. We have been forced to grow old relying only on our fading memories of good old Fallout, and every year our foggy brains grow unsure - did the game have guns? Were the mutants green or blue? We're just so glad you've been able to do this and report back with amazing, enlightening truths. If only all of us could play these games again in 2020 and see for ourselves whether the game compares favourably to good games or not, and create innumerable posts and threads about that, oh wait

 

TemplarGR I thought this fag self ejected awhile ago?

 

I was born in 95, and played F1 three years ago and found it to be a great game, certainly superior to F3 which I played maybe the first time 8 years ago.