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Does anyone besides you actually read it?

 

dead game

 

Does anyone know (roughly) how much of Numanuma is on Zeits? I can't believe the creative lead for MotB would crap out something as utterly bland and forgettable as Numanuma.

Please come back, George, all is forgiven.

 

shhhhhh, stop telling people, just let them find it out on the day of purchase

but what a wasted opportunity, Microsoft should have dug up the old Freelancer fossils and made something happen in the space flight department

 

If it's bad, it's because of Boyarsky. He's been giving the writers more direction than they're used to (e.g. forcing Starks to watch Brazil to get the tone they're going for)

He was in charge of the Bloom.

 

Ziets was responsible for Bloom, location considered by most of the people to be the best part of the game.

 

Freelancer was shit. Give me Starlancer or give me nothing.

 

Interestingly, Brazil is Terry Gilliam's movie, of Monty Python fame. And we all here know how much of Monty Python has found its way in Fallout.

The movie iitself is sth like a cross of 1984 with black comedy. I like it a lot.

 

Damn dude this is a lot to write just to say you're an incel.

 

you get nothing

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you're sort of on point, though, of course an immersive cockpit view would be preferable - the new Rebel Galaxy looks right

 

Boomer/Gen X humor that appears to have fallen out of favor with many younger Millennials and Zoomers. (What was probably) Robert Land kept that torch going in Tyranny though.

 

Roguey they’ve released one other game since Tyranny (have you played Deadfire yet?), so it’s a little premature to say anything has gone in or out of style. If there are no Monty Python references in Deadfire—not sure if that’s even the case—it’s probably because Sawyer is fucking sick of reading them.

Also, I’d hardly compare a low effort “huge tracts of land” joke with “watch Brazil to understand the tone of this game before you write anything.”

 

It's not just Obsidian, it's a personal observation. The internet and nerd culture in general used to be full of Python references.

 

Yeah, it got stale like twenty years ago. Doubt it’s a generational thing—more like this stuff got overused and became played out. There’s only so many times you can hear someone recite the entire script of Holy Grail or Life of Brian before it stops being funny and starts being insanely irritating.

Peak Python was probably 2005 when Eric Idle’s Spamalot musical won a bunch of Tony awards and the universe said, “enough!”

 

Brazil was written by Tom Stoppard and has his plucky dialog, exaggerated characterization, earnest absurdity, etc. fwiw, it doesn’t much resemble Monty Python’s humor or writing. Still, I don’t know how well an imitation of that would be received nowadays, whether Boyarsky is looking at the writing (Stoppard) or the dystopian bureaucracy (Gilliam) for inspiration.

I do know I would rather claw my eyes out than watch Shakespeare in Love again.

 

The art assets on those buildings look like they were ripped straight from Borderlands.

 

That sequence in the climax (man in a goofy mask sees that the guy he's about to torture is his friend and has a comically exaggerated angry reaction to it) could be a Python sketch.

 

Tom Stoppard, Terry Gilliam, and Charles McKeown are all credited as the writers of Brazil, which is a classic film.

 

I’m guessing you feel this way because the man in the surgical mask is Michael Palin.

 

I don't know why it's all that relevant, honestly. Boyarsky could have everyone watch Brazil a thousand times, but the studio doesn't have anything close to a Stoppard on staff, so you're either getting a shit imitation or just a talking point for internet interview fodder.

 

No studio has anyone close to Tom Stoppard on staff. So what? This is how all artists (loosely defined) should operate. It’s not a bad idea to draw inspiration from artists who are, you know, better than you.

Edit: and yes, one Rosencrantz & Guildenstern are dead makes up for a thousand Shakespeare in Loves

 

Also, the scene where people go on eating while bombs explode all around them is quite Pythonesque. (haven't seen the film for over a decade, so take that as you will)

Eh, they may fuck it up, but still it is the best chance we 've got. RPGs often take inspiration form books/movies. I 'd rather they are good books/movies.

 

My point is that the quality of the source they're trying to take inspiration from is largely irrelevant given the (lack of) talent involved. 'I watched Citizen Kane seventeen times before I began work on my own masterpiece', proudly proclaimed the diaper-clad man scribbling storyboards on a wall with his own feces.

But sure... maybe the combination of a good source of inspiration and Boyarksy riding herd on his writing staff will result in something elevated beyond merely serviceable. We can hope. God knows the bar has been set pretty low.

(Regardless, I agree that R&G are Dead was quite good. The movie, much less so.)

 

Brazil's certainly a more story to ape from than her usual sources.