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The Outer Worlds Pre-Release Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'Obsidian Entertainment' started by DosBuster, Dec 14, 2017.

  1. Kyl Von Kull The Night Tripper Patron

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    Again, why are you taking this to mean that they’re exercising no discretion whatsoever over the end product? Allowing their subordinates to do their jobs is not the same as giving them carte blanche to put whatever they want in the game. Directing =/= doing nothing.

    But they aren’t going to tell the interviewer about all of the bad ideas they squashed along the way—that would be bad PR.

    Tim Cain does a brutal postmortem of every single Fallout game, including the ones he had nothing to do with. The idea that he and Leonard are incapable of delegating wisely or critiquing their subordinates is kind of nuts. They did that at Troika! I wouldn’t trust them to run a business, but to direct a game (as long as the publisher spends a lot on QA)? Come on.

    More like people have been burned so many times that every utterance from these guys is interpreted in the most negative possible light.
     
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  2. toro Arcane

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    Indeed Fallout, Arcanum and F3: NV were all about the visuals.

    Also please ask Escape from Tarkov or Metro developers about realistic styles.

    Fucking codex. Looks like old posters got brain rot and should be put to sleep.
     
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  3. Mr. Hiver Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    He never mentioned its "brutal", and that doesnt have anything to do with this one anyway. Except in your delusional broken mind.

    He never said anything like that. You are halucinating strawmans.

    No, they worked on games in Troika. With far better team.
     
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  4. Strange Fellow Arcane Patron

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    Because I'm a massive pessimist, because I like absolutely nothing of what we've seen so far, and because Obsidian's track record in recent years isn't particularly great. I'm not out to disparage Cain & Boyarsky's management skills, but I do think that they'll excercise less discretion (which is different from no discretion) over other people's ideas compared to their own, just like MCA does. I hope I'm wrong. And I do think that they worked more closely on their games at Troika, because they flat out admit in the interview that they're further removed from development than they've been in the past.
     
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  5. Alienman Arcane Patron

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    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2
    The ironic thing of it all is that this game will probably be the game that saves the studio, if it wasn't for the Microsoft buyout...

    But then again, from what I have read and understand here on Codex is that Fergus wanted to sell for a long time now.
     
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  6. Zer0wing Liturgist

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    "Follow this account to be updated on all things #OuterWorlds! NOT affiliated with Obsidian. Acct ran by @4allout"
     
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  7. Jarpie Arcane Patron

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    Visual style is part of it, especially in Fallout and Arcanum, the visual style builds up the atmosphere of the game, the style they chose for Fallout 1&2 and Arcanum fit those games well. New Vegas will always look like fucking donkey ass, thanks to Bethesda's shitty engine, only redeeming quality in New Vegas is the writing and the quest/story design.

    I think part of the reason why they chose more stylized look for the game is that it tends to stand the time better than realistic style.

    PS. Fuck you too.
     
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  8. toro Arcane

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    The Outer Worlds's visuals are stylized but not in a jarring way like in Borderlands.

    Fallout 4 visuals are fine. The game has other issues.

    No Man's Sky's look is derivative to start with.

    The idea is that nobody except Cain and Boyarsky know what is the real tone of the game therefore nobody can say if the visuals will match the atmosphere or not.
     
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  9. Zer0wing Liturgist

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    Citation please. Flat and not properly shadowed city are fine? The overexposed southern part of the map are fine? Glowing puke is fine? Fallout 4 looks like shit but different kind of, much meaner, seeing The Outer Worlds adapting similar techniques actively hurts the game.
     
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  10. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    its a metaphor for the atomic explosion
     
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  11. Zer0wing Liturgist

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    210 years have passed.
     
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  12. IHaveHugeNick Arcane

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    RPG Codex - the only acceptable art style is grimdark with depressing colors

    Also RPG Codex - Divinity Original Sin is our game of the year.
     
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  13. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite

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    I love colors, but TOW is garish.
     
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  14. Quillon Magister

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    Which ones?
     
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  15. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    delete your account
     
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  16. toro Arcane

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    https://store.steampowered.com/app/377160/Fallout_4/

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    Or you could play the game. It's a piece of shit but the visuals are fine.
     
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  17. Quillon Magister

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    Those are bullshots, actual game is worse but not too bad.
     
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  18. Glenda Glenn Educated

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    If this game fails to deliver, the proud title of "the original creators of Fallout" will take a critical hit.
     
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  19. sullynathan Arcane

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    STALKER

    Guy sounds like a generic vampire
     
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  20. Kyl Von Kull The Night Tripper Patron

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    Does MCA actually exercise less discretion over other people’s ideas when he’s calling the shots? Citation needed. He’s polite about other developers in public, but that has little to do with his management style and why would it apply to anyone else? Chris is pathologically self-effacing.

    Maybe the skills needed to manage thirty people don’t scale to managing a hundred people, but you could just as easily say Tim and Leonard finally have the money and manpower to realize their vision.

    If you don’t like anything at all about what you’ve seen so far, it’s probably because you don’t like that vision. seems a lot more likely than bungled execution.
     
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  21. sullynathan Arcane

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    Reddit thread doesn't mean much
     
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  22. IHaveHugeNick Arcane

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    Hopefully Feargus can borrow some designers from MS to give feedback on combat at least, because they certainly have better experience making compelling shooters than anybody at Obsidian.
     
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  23. undecaf Arcane Patron

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    Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2
    Awful creatures. Avoid them when ever I can.
     
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  24. ArchAngel Arcane

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    Neither Metro or EfT are RPGs. Metros is a story based shooter and EfT a MP PvP shooter. Don't know what is the point of bringing them up. Their focus is on graphics because that is how shooters stand apart from the crowd.
     
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  25. ArchAngel Arcane

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    They are also taken from a modded F4. I played F4 without mods and it looked like crap (and had terrible FPS for the quality of its graphics).
     
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