Well i am pretty far right guy and a tad bit racist nationalist. But when it comes to games i am trying to distance it from the real world shit. What i wrote about was more from the angle of immersion breaking than racism or nationalism. Of course such things grow in to a shit show fast.East European overly conscious about ethnicity, nationality and race. Extremely surprising.
Well i am pretty far right guy and a tad bit racist nationalist. But when it comes to games i am trying to distance it from the real world shit. What i wrote about was more from the angle of immersion breaking than racism or nationalism. Of course such things grow in to a shit show fast.East European overly conscious about ethnicity, nationality and race. Extremely surprising.
I find ridiculous race mixed societies and cultures. After all you can't have city with 50/50 milk white dudes and black guys in such games. After all you need pretty hot climate to get black skin and very cold climate with very little sun for a snow white skin. How the fuck they can have the same culture???
Yeah,i won't argue with this. Still there is a difference between ethnicity and race. Also in the Ottoman empire everyone hated everyone. People as a whole hate difference and are tribal creatures. Another thing is that there were not many black people in the Ottoman empire,most turks themself are white as milk (at least in the more western part). I am saying that city with 50/50 different races is physically impossible at the very least. Now if it is a sci-fi game i woudn't care at all.Well i am pretty far right guy and a tad bit racist nationalist. But when it comes to games i am trying to distance it from the real world shit. What i wrote about was more from the angle of immersion breaking than racism or nationalism. Of course such things grow in to a shit show fast.East European overly conscious about ethnicity, nationality and race. Extremely surprising.
I find ridiculous race mixed societies and cultures. After all you can't have city with 50/50 milk white dudes and black guys in such games. After all you need pretty hot climate to get black skin and very cold climate with very little sun for a snow white skin. How the fuck they can have the same culture???
Living in Bulgaria, you must be aware that there has existed multi-ethnic empires which consisted of peoples of different phenotype that lived together, sometimes in isolation, sometimes in mixture.
Yeah,i won't argue with this. Still there is a difference between ethnicity and race. Also in the Ottoman empire everyone hated everyone. People as a whole hate difference and are tribal creatures. Another thing is that there were not many black people in the Ottoman empire,most turks themself are white as milk (at least in the more western part). I am saying that city with 50/50 different races is physically impossible at the very least. Now if it is a sci-fi game i woudn't care at all.Well i am pretty far right guy and a tad bit racist nationalist. But when it comes to games i am trying to distance it from the real world shit. What i wrote about was more from the angle of immersion breaking than racism or nationalism. Of course such things grow in to a shit show fast.East European overly conscious about ethnicity, nationality and race. Extremely surprising.
I find ridiculous race mixed societies and cultures. After all you can't have city with 50/50 milk white dudes and black guys in such games. After all you need pretty hot climate to get black skin and very cold climate with very little sun for a snow white skin. How the fuck they can have the same culture???
Living in Bulgaria, you must be aware that there has existed multi-ethnic empires which consisted of peoples of different phenotype that lived together, sometimes in isolation, sometimes in mixture.
You are mixing races with ethnicities mate. Also Thessaloniki have a lot of Bulgarians too.Yeah,i won't argue with this. Still there is a difference between ethnicity and race. Also in the Ottoman empire everyone hated everyone. People as a whole hate difference and are tribal creatures. Another thing is that there were not many black people in the Ottoman empire,most turks themself are white as milk (at least in the more western part). I am saying that city with 50/50 different races is physically impossible at the very least. Now if it is a sci-fi game i woudn't care at all.Well i am pretty far right guy and a tad bit racist nationalist. But when it comes to games i am trying to distance it from the real world shit. What i wrote about was more from the angle of immersion breaking than racism or nationalism. Of course such things grow in to a shit show fast.East European overly conscious about ethnicity, nationality and race. Extremely surprising.
I find ridiculous race mixed societies and cultures. After all you can't have city with 50/50 milk white dudes and black guys in such games. After all you need pretty hot climate to get black skin and very cold climate with very little sun for a snow white skin. How the fuck they can have the same culture???
Living in Bulgaria, you must be aware that there has existed multi-ethnic empires which consisted of peoples of different phenotype that lived together, sometimes in isolation, sometimes in mixture.
There were cities, for example Thessaloniki in Greece, that was more or less evenly distributed between Jews, Turks and Greeks. Another example would be the Spanish colonies in America for example, which featured various origins and also varying degrees of intermixing.
There are other examples too but I won't get to detail because that's beyond the point. Perhaps there wouldn't be evenly distributed cities in fantasy, but there could very well be ones distributed between two or more races in numbers, if the circumstances are plausible to explain why such variance exists then there is nothing impossible about it.
I am saying that city with 50/50 different races is physically impossible at the very least. Now if it is a sci-fi game i woudn't care at all.
The prevailing narrative in this thread seems to be a surprised reaction to black people having an advanced civilization. That's low-key legitimately racist. White people didn't invent the sciences, arts and philosophies on which civilizations are built because they are white, but because they were in a climate suitable for such advancement.
I'm talking about the start of such a thing. States, ideologies, arts and what-have-you are a very advanced thing. Good luck interacting with states when there are none. The only other people you know are other tribes of oonga-boonga primitives that you kill each other on sight. I'm pretty sure the prevailing scientific hypothesis on this issue is the environmental thing, especially the Ancient Greeks' incredibly strategic and hospitable landmass. I'm open to other ideas, obviously, that's what I've read in scientific journals on the matter, but maybe there are some that disagree completely.
The prevailing narrative in this thread seems to be a surprised reaction to black people having an advanced civilization. That's low-key legitimately racist. White people didn't invent the sciences, arts and philosophies on which civilizations are built because they are white, but because they were in a climate suitable for such advancement. A climate in which they didn't need to hunt for food all day, every day. People who are not in such hospitable environments, in this case black people that came from Africa, couldn't start any sort of serious investigation into how the world works due to their preoccupation with, you know, survival. Vailians could've migrated from somewhere else and settled a land in which advancement is possible, so the reaction of "black people forged an advanced civilization?!?!" is real-world bias and low-key racist.
Can you imagine how boring it will be without such threads?! I tremble at the thought of a grey monotonous forum filled with purple haired yes idiots talking about the Gone home "game".A whole thread for people to talk about black people in a game, codex still has it.
I won't have problem if Vailians are black even if in the first one they were white from what i remember,only black was the bird one.
If you are going to have dramatically different races, then I think you also have to give a reason why they exist. In the real world, much of the "Caucasian" world is contiguous. The USA consideres an Arab to be of the same racial group as a Norwegian (and an Chinese person would as well).
That means they need to be either new arrival (some new technology has allowed peoples from another continent) or there has to be a signifiant barrier preventing a natural mixing (like the real world Sahara).
I have yet to play Pillars, but a bit of research seems to indicate they all live on the same continent, I dont really see how that could work unless they are all extremely racist, otherwise the populations would homogenise.
I'm talking about the start of such a thing. States, ideologies, arts and what-have-you are a very advanced thing. Good luck interacting with states when there are none. The only other people you know are other tribes of oonga-boonga primitives that you kill each other on sight. I'm pretty sure the prevailing scientific hypothesis on this issue is the environmental thing (coupled with trade, too, removing the need for violence, I think?), especially the Ancient Greeks' incredibly strategic and hospitable landmass. I'm open to other ideas, obviously, that's what I've read in scientific journals on the matter, but maybe there are some that disagree completely.
I am inclined to agree, however, I am compelled to acknowledge your agenda.Honest take: Making the hot-blooded, sassy, stylish, and linguistically grandiloquent race of your fantasy setting black actually matches very well with longstanding American ethnic stereotypes, and for that reason doesn't come across as some perverse SJW innovation