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The PS5 and Xbox 2 thread - it's happening

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Makabb, Mar 22, 2018.

  1. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    fps above 60 fps is a meme, you don't need more than 60 fps.
     
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  2. Modron Arcane

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    Makabb going to soon be arguing that 4k 20 fps is how games were meant to be played.
     
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  3. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    Back in my day we used to play on c64 and amiga with 15-20 fps and those were best moments of gaming, fps is not what makes a game good or not.
     
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  4. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    Those games though were designed in a way where framerate didn't matter (much). Even later PC games still using ~12 fps sprite animations (BG, Fallout, Adventure games) wouldn't be much of a bother.

    You can't seriously believe though to apply the same paradigm to a fully explorable, highly interactive 3D world and expect to have the same fun.
     
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  5. abija Liturgist

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    20 fps is more than fine when you turn with a gamepad.
     
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  6. Alexandros Arcane

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    The PS3 launching at $599 is what gave that generation to Microsoft. You are crazy if you think that they will do the same again. As for the CPU, you can't determine whether or not it will be high end by its core and threads. Jaguar had 8 cores and it was weaker than Intel's dual core Pentium line. You really have no idea what you're talking about and the only explanation I can think of for your insistence on embarrassing yourself is that you're 12 years old.


    The new consoles will have last year's mid range hardware and they will perform exactly as such. We've had a whole generation of x86 consoles and every myth about their supposed massive performance gains over PC hardware has been completely and thoroughly debunked. There are literally hundreds of videos proving so. Previous consoles had different architectures and publishers typically squeezed out a turd of a PC port that ran terribly, which created the myth of consoles performing much better than PCs. One generation of x86 hardware conclusively proved otherwise.
     
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  7. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    Yeah, even if they do two models with one at $599 and the other a little lower, I still think it would be crazy.
     
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  8. Tehdagah Arcane

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    They did, the PS3 had a "cheap" version priced at $500.
     
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  9. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    btw it was confirmed by Sony that devkit design is real and it's what the devs have, it's beefy like that because the heat needs to get out, which means it will be STRONK

    [​IMG]
     
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  10. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer

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    I've seen people complain about this design, but I actually like it a lot. It has that futuristic feel to it, like something out of Star Trek. If it will be something like this, I won't complain.
     
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  11. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    It probably look slightly different, but the size will remain because of the specs.
     
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  12. CrunchyHemorrhoids Cipher

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    Could also just be running hot because it's overclocked 14nm AMD chips.
     
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  13. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    they are using AMDs 7nm, both CPU and GPU
     
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  14. Funposter Savant

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    "SSD Drive"
     
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  15. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    BS, the cpu is on ryzen 3600 level and gpu on RTX 2080, it has this years high end hardware.
    A year from now this still will be relevant.

    Apart from you I base my assumptions on facts that are known already instead of pulling them out of your arse.
     
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  16. soulburner Savant

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    The PS5 and the new Xbox will not have last or even current generation CPU/GPU that could be analogous to a PC one. Both consoles will use custom chips, which means the CPU, which is based on the 7nm Zen 2 rchitecture, will not be directly comparable to a Ryzen 3600 or a 3700. The same with the GPU - it might be similar to the Radeon 5700, using RDNA architecture, but have a different number of shader processors and/or work at a different frequency. Due to the unified architecture, the CPU and GPU will communicate in a slightly different way that graphic cards in PC, too - both CPU & GPU share the memory, they might share the same memory controller, have a shared cache and shit like that, which substantially reduce all kinds of latencies.

    The PC will have to do some catching up after the new consoles release. However, with Intel entering the GPU market, I suspect the prices will become sane again and upgrading will not be as damaging to the home budget.

    I will stay on my toaster laptop with an eGPU for at least two CPU and GPU generations before I upgrade anything. And no, I will not be buying any console. I might be a potato, but I'm not a peasant.
     
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  17. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    Zen 2 IS Ryzen 3xxx and Zen 2 is confirmed for PS5 so essentialy PS5 will have 100% a ryzen 3xxx, the only difference with PS5 is that it will have lower clocks, starting from 3ghz.

    Agreed on GPU.
     
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  18. vortex Fabulous Optimist

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    If ps5 has GPU level of RTX 2080, which AMD GPU is that? Maybe AMD didn't released it yet for public?
     
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  19. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    amd will release it next year, PS5 has a custom one.
     
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  20. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    That RTX 2080 level performance PS5 has been debunked as false.

    Makabb, your uneducated speculation is making you look like a desperate buffoon. I'm sure Sony will reveal the SoC specs sometime next year, and I'd wager this ain't gonna be a TFLOPS war anymore like previously.
     
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  21. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    wrong !

    "Oberon A0.
    Gen2 : GFXCLK = 2.000GHz
    Gen1 : GFXCLK = 0.911Ghz
    Gen0 : GFXCLK = 0.800Ghz

    This equates to 9.2 TF on the RDNA architecture. Or roughly 14 TF on the GCN Architecture aka over double the power of the X1X. Almost RTX2080 power."

    https://wccftech.com/playstation-5-powerful-rtx-2080/
     
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  22. Alexandros Arcane

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    I remember the lead up to this generation's reveal. People were saying that because Unreal Engine's Elemental demo ran on a PC with three Nvidia 680s on SLI the Playstation 4 would be as powerful as that system. Good times.
     
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  23. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    wrong !

    Newest rumors say 7 TFLOPS.

    bam dum dish!
     
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  24. vortex Fabulous Optimist

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    And rumors are always true.
    ba dum tsss
     
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  25. Makabb Arcane Shitposter Bethestard

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    It's not a rumour, this leaker also said (as you can see on the site) that ps5 will have a 7nm zen 2 and ray tracing, which sony confirmed last week, so 14 tf is also true.
     
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