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The Secret World

Discussion in 'MMO(RP)G / Online Discussion' started by Jaesun, Apr 8, 2011.

  1. hello friend Arcane

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    It would never have been that big as a single player game. They could never have afforded it.

    It would have been cool if they'd built it from the ground up for future conversion to single player, for the day they finally shut down the servers. A man can dream.
     
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  2. Irxy Arcane

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    Being big is not a positive thing by default. 3/4 of the game can easily be thrown out as a filler and conventional mmo rubbish.
     
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  3. Bigg Boss Prophet

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    But the story that is there is better than 3/4 of the rubbish out in the market.
     
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  4. Kem0sabe Arcane

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    There's a lot of shitty quest design in the game, people tend not to complain about the countless kill quests because they have some interesting characters and dialogue behind them.

    The biggest issue for me is the lack of agency by the player. The quests almost always involve long winded monologues by npcs while you stand there dumbfucked listening, and a lot of the time those monologues have fuck all to do with the Quest objectives.
     
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  5. J1M Arcane

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    Secret World has an interesting setting, but it puts an MMO between it and the player. I have a few points in autism and I couldn't even finish the second zone. There's definitely something they could do with what they have to provide a tighter 30-hour experience instead of a 300-hour one.
     
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  6. hello friend Arcane

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    Shouldn't take you more than 60-80 hrs to complete the game iirc

    And that's if you're playing solo
     
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  7. Zombra An iron rock in the river of blood and evil Patron

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    Yeah. I very much got the feeling of "Here's a scene from a disjointed movie, enjoy! Now go kill 10 wolves. Now here's another scene from that movie!" In general I liked the cutscenes - I feel the writing is good, the story structure is fine, the performances are good - but they're more a barrier between me and the game than a motivating force.
     
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  8. Reinhardt Arcane

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    3/4? It's better than 99% of the rubbish. Maybe 99,9.
     
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  9. InD_ImaginE Magister

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    Lol, I feel the MMO gameplay to be a barrier between me and actually decent setting and dialogue from the scenes.
     
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  10. bozia2012 Arcane Patron

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    It's not clarified anywhere, but it's consistent throughout the game that being a "bee" means you're a bit retarded socially and you can't speak. You become a battlesuit for the bee, but not all connections are working :)

    I liked the NPC monologues, because usually they're self-important assholes and wackos that provide unsolicited exposition about anything that's on their mind. Then you have to figure out yourself what was the problem.
     
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  11. Lhynn Arcane

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    No, if i remember correctly you meet other bees and they can speak just fine. They went with the silent protagonist but never gave a reason why in the narrative.
     
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  12. J1M Arcane

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    I thought I was a Templar. Now I find out I was a bee. :(
     
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  13. Zombra An iron rock in the river of blood and evil Patron

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    Don't get me wrong. I enjoyed the worldbuilding, dialogue, characterization, performances, direction, you name it ... what I didn't like was the pacing. Sitting watching long disjointed cutscenes just didn't work well with this type of gameplay (does it ever?) and it was doubly bad because the content so rarely had anything to do with your objectives.
     
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  14. bylam Funcom Developer

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    Most of the cutscenes were written before the missions. I spent a lot of time pulling *anything* out of those cutscenes for mission designs.
     
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  15. Hoaxmetal Arcane

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    Well that explains a lot D:
     
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  16. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    wheres my single player spin off
     
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  17. Sykar Arcane

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  18. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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  19. anvi Cipher Village Idiot

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    It failed because whoever is in charge of the design is a fucking moron. Someone should name and shame those dipshits, whoever thought it was a good idea to make the best items in the game come from the same 6 dungeons and make it so you get locked out of each dungeon until the next day, even if your group fails and falls apart along the way. Also the story faggery was off the scales, every shitty MMO quest wanted to try to justify itself with a spoken intro that was always cringe and bad. Also it had puzzles that were supposed to be like little investigations but were just a chore and nobody had the patience to do them so just googled the answers or just asked someone to blurt it out in chat. Also there was no way near enough content. They had this one big talent tree but that was it for every character and every class. It allowed a few different builds but that was it for the entire game. Everyone you ever met was one of those few builds and it is all anyone could be.

    It could have been a really popular single player game but they tried to make it work as an MMO and it was way off. And then the Legends thing was even more clueless.
     
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  20. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    lol who cares
     
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  21. J_C One Bit Studio Patron Developer

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  22. anvi Cipher Village Idiot

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    Everyone that plays it? What a retarded argument... Everyone in the game got to the point in a week that the only progress they could make was from running the same 6 instances over and over. It is a game without levels so you get better gear or you have nothing to do. Compare that to my favorite MMO where there are probably 100 dungeons or more. No wonder games can get away with being so shit when there are so many mongs like you.
     
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  23. rolandz_Baton_PROD Educated

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    what's your favorite mmo?
     
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  24. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    nobody (sane) plays this thing as an mmo

    its a single player adventure / puzzles / storytiem game where some npcs are controlled by dumb people addicted to the jump button
     
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  25. Juan_Carlo Arcane

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    They should just convert Secret World to a single player RPG with co-op. It'd be cool.
     
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