Official Codex Discord Server

  1. Welcome to rpgcodex.net, a site dedicated to discussing computer based role-playing games in a free and open fashion. We're less strict than other forums, but please refer to the rules.

    "This message is awaiting moderator approval": All new users must pass through our moderation queue before they will be able to post normally. Until your account has "passed" your posts will only be visible to yourself (and moderators) until they are approved. Give us a week to get around to approving / deleting / ignoring your mundane opinion on crap before hassling us about it. Once you have passed the moderation period (think of it as a test), you will be able to post normally, just like all the other retards.
    Dismiss Notice

The Valve and Steam Platform Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Morgoth, Jan 14, 2012.

  1. Abu Antar Tweet, tweet Patron

    Abu Antar
    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2014
    Messages:
    7,057
    Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire
    If they take Epic's money, they don't need mine! I'll move on to something else. I've said from day one that I understand why someone would take the money, I don't have to like it as a consumer, but no hate from me.
     
    • Agree Agree x 1
    • Balanced Balanced x 1
    ^ Top  
  2. Multi-headed Cow Savant

    Multi-headed Cow
    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2018
    Messages:
    937
    Location:
    Illinois
    He mentions how he trimmed the bottom 80% of games and trimmed AAA banner games, then trimmed the top and bottom 5% to reduce outliers. Wouldn't that mean that supply is outpacing demand and a lot of the "Missing money" is going into people buying those 80% of "Trash" games he removed? Like he says the bottom 80% are making hardly any money at all, and his numbers were exclusively coming from one month (July to August) and he's extrapolating a year of sales over the course of a month of just 170 of the 900 games released in that one month span. So not only is he glossing over the massive supply of new games (Since there's only a finite amount of cash people will dump on videogames globally), he's then estimating yearly sales numbers on Steam, a platform with roughly 30,000 games using just 170 out of 900 released in a month. He then ends with telling people to stop bullying Epic.

    I don't know about you fellers but this seems like it's on the level to me. If you look at Epic Game Store's sales per individual game I bet they look a lot better too. They're up to what, 30 games now?
    :kingcomrade:
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Interesting Interesting x 2
    • Funny Funny x 1
    • Yes Yes x 1
    ^ Top  
  3. rusty_shackleford Arcane

    rusty_shackleford
    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2018
    Messages:
    10,856
    His numbers are way too low. Some basic math can easily show he's far off. Either he's excluding a lot more titles than what he refers to as "AAA" or he's just using bullshit data.
    Steam had $4.3bn in sales in 2017, which was up from $3.5bn in 2016. Extrapolating the data he used, it would account for about …0.54% of Steam's 2019 sales assuming Steam sales increased at the same rate since 2017(I'm too lazy to check if they have)
     
    ^ Top  
  4. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

    LESS T_T
    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2012
    Messages:
    10,477
    Codex 2014
    Tag-based recommendations now less dependent on popularity, shows "more relevant to individual customers": https://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamworks/announcements/detail/1591381408652851752

    Case in point, it's still not the best matches now it's showing more indie-er games than big sellers.

     
    • Brofist Brofist x 1
    • incline incline x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
    ^ Top  
  5. Morgoth Arcane Patron

    Morgoth
    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2003
    Messages:
    25,534
    Location:
    Apple Strudel Food Inspection GmbH
    Perhaps some people might find this interesting:



    Kerry Davis from Valve talks at Digipen about some serious VR challenges that Valve is trying to overcome. More specifically, how to deal with doors, and door knobs!

    Nothing specific about the next major VR title, other than "I'm dying" for the eventual announcement.
     
    • Salute Salute x 1
    • Informative Informative x 1
    ^ Top  
  6. Fedora Master Arcane Patron

    Fedora Master
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2017
    Messages:
    4,198
    VR is still A Thing? :lol:
     
    • Funny Funny x 6
    • No No x 1
    • butthurt butthurt x 1
    • it is a mystery it is a mystery x 1
    ^ Top  
  7. Morgoth Arcane Patron

    Morgoth
    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2003
    Messages:
    25,534
    Location:
    Apple Strudel Food Inspection GmbH
    Valve has three major VR games in development, so according to them at least, yes.
     
    • [citation needed] [citation needed] x 1
    • Fabulously Optimistic Fabulously Optimistic x 1
    ^ Top  
  8. Steamboat Willie Scholar

    Steamboat Willie
    Joined:
    Jan 3, 2019
    Messages:
    490
    So at least one of them will be cancelled for sure.
     
    • Funny Funny x 6
    • nice nice x 2
    • Despair Despair x 1
    ^ Top  
  9. Villagkouras Arbiter

    Villagkouras
    Joined:
    Jul 3, 2014
    Messages:
    653
    Location:
    Greece
    Isn't today the day that the new UI beta rolls out? Do we have to opt in for beta updates to receive it?
     
    • Yes Yes x 1
    ^ Top  
  10. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

    LESS T_T
    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2012
    Messages:
    10,477
    Codex 2014
    It's 3AM in Valve. I'd expect news around the Steam update time (10AM PDT).
     
    ^ Top  
  11. Morgoth Arcane Patron

    Morgoth
    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2003
    Messages:
    25,534
    Location:
    Apple Strudel Food Inspection GmbH
    19:00 CEST is when Steam updates usually roll out. That's about in less than 7 hours now.
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
    ^ Top  
  12. Rahdulan Arcane Patron

    Rahdulan
    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2012
    Messages:
    3,759
    Might even opt in for a beta.

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2019
    • Funny Funny x 3
    ^ Top  
  13. TheSentinel Arcane

    TheSentinel
    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2015
    Messages:
    4,634
    Location:
    Ommadawn
     
    • Informative Informative x 1
    ^ Top  
  14. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

    LESS T_T
    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2012
    Messages:
    10,477
    Codex 2014
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2019
    • Brofist Brofist x 1
    ^ Top  
  15. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

    LESS T_T
    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2012
    Messages:
    10,477
    Codex 2014
    https://steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/2885041763127316560

     
    • Brofist Brofist x 1
    ^ Top  
  16. TheSentinel Arcane

    TheSentinel
    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2015
    Messages:
    4,634
    Location:
    Ommadawn
    So I'm 5 minutes in and I already noticed the uninstall game option is gone. You now have to go to the game's properties to do it. And my RAM usage is in the 500MB and rising (currently at 700MB, same as my WoW client).

    Very well done Mr. Gaben.
     
    • Funny x 3
    • Up Yours x 1
    • Agree x 1
    • incline x 1
    • decline x 1
    • WTF am I reading x 1
    ^ Top  
  17. rusty_shackleford Arcane

    rusty_shackleford
    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2018
    Messages:
    10,856
    [​IMG]
     
    • Yes Yes x 2
    • decline decline x 1
    ^ Top  
  18. TheSentinel Arcane

    TheSentinel
    Joined:
    Nov 18, 2015
    Messages:
    4,634
    Location:
    Ommadawn
    Yep, I restarted the client and it's there. There's also a Library entry in the settings menu now. Time to test it out.

    [​IMG]
     
    ^ Top  
  19. Merlkir Arcane Developer

    Merlkir
    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2008
    Messages:
    1,216
    Huh, I'm not downloading anything, but the beta sure is absolutely flooding my network connection. Funny.
     
    ^ Top  
  20. Belegarsson Think about hairy dwarfs all the time ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Patron

    Belegarsson
    Joined:
    Oct 20, 2015
    Messages:
    813
    Location:
    Uwotopia
    Dear god I can't stop laughing at that big ass font for game title.

    [​IMG]
     
    ^ Top  
  21. Alienman Arcane Patron

    Alienman
    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2014
    Messages:
    9,536
    Location:
    Mars
    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2
    Does it reset your categories? Please say no...
     
    • No No x 3
    • :M :M x 1
    ^ Top  
  22. rusty_shackleford Arcane

    rusty_shackleford
    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2018
    Messages:
    10,856
    do people actually use those?
     
    • Yes Yes x 10
    • No No x 1
    ^ Top  
  23. LESS T_T Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

    LESS T_T
    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2012
    Messages:
    10,477
    Codex 2014
    It will convert them to collections. They're more useful and easier to manage (drag and drop), also automated collections based on filters are cool.
     
    • Thanks! Thanks! x 1
    ^ Top  
  24. pakoito Arcane

    pakoito
    Joined:
    Jun 7, 2012
    Messages:
    2,522
    The performance is piss-poor, at least on Mac. Worse than a website.
     
    • Agree Agree x 2
    • Informative Informative x 1
    ^ Top  
  25. Multi-headed Cow Savant

    Multi-headed Cow
    Joined:
    Oct 1, 2018
    Messages:
    937
    Location:
    Illinois
    I didn't used to, but it's handy for some shit. I've only bothered to make categories for CYOA games (Since they get lost in the shuffle easily) and boardgames. In most cases I just start typing the name of the game I want, but in a few cases I can just have a catchall category and that'll cover 'em. If I started going too deep with it I'd have to ask myself forbidden questions like "What is an RPG".
     
    ^ Top  

(buying stuff via the above buttons helps us pay the hosting bills, thanks!)