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The Valve and Steam Platform Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Morgoth, Jan 14, 2012.

  1. wergle Educated

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    See: TF2 hats
     
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  2. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    Not sure what you're trying to say. Valve made the first wave of hats and adds a few every once in a while but for at least a year or two now most of the cosmetic items in TF2 are user submissions with Valve getting a cut. Moreover, you also presuppose that the trivial amount of time they spend making cosmetic TF2 and Dota 2 items (again, a lot of Dota stuff is user submission) would otherwise be spent... doing what? Making art assets for what game? L4D3? HL3? Portal 3? Because of Steam Valve has ceased to be a developer and is more along the lines of a publisher/social media company. Their games come out at a snails pace because they have no need to sell them like a traditional developer. The delays have nothing to do with the lack of art assets.
     
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  3. wergle Educated

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    Yeah, I know. That's what I said. I also said they make a lot of money doing very little work themselves, which is also what you said.
     
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  4. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    :retarded:
     
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  6. Spectacle Arcane Patron

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    Valve and Gaben have basically won capitalism. In the digital economy it is not about controlling the means of production, but the means of sale.
     
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  7. Unkillable Cat Prestigious Gentleman LEST WE FORGET Patron

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    What are the odds this Workshop submission gets approved?

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  8. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/07/16/americas-next-top-newell-valve-pipeline/#more-160533

    America’s Next Top Newell: Valve Pipeline

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    Valve wants to hire everyone. Or at least, it would if everyone conformed to an incredibly specific set of creative standards and sported brains heaving with so much intelligence that nearby rodents exploded into academic journals at mere exposure to their thoughts. Unsurprisingly, Valve tends to focus on those with tremendous amounts of previous experience and reports of startlingly low rodent populations in their wake. Valve Pipeline, however, is the antithesis of that. The game wearer (and maker) of many hats is attempting to cultivate its own crop by sucking the brightest minds of tomorrow into its oozing brain tubules.



    The website’s aim is to give teenagers a look behind-the-scenes of Valve’s process, with updates coming from high-school-age interns. Here’s Valve’s explanation:

    “There are two main reasons that Valve is creating Pipeline. The first is that we are frequently asked questions by teenagers about the videogame industry. ‘What is it like to work on videogames? What should I study? What colleges are best for preparing me? How do I get a job in videogames?’ Pipeline will be a place where those questions can be discussed.”​

    “The second is that Valve is running an experiment. Traditionally Valve has been a very good place for very experienced videogame developers, and not so good at teaching people straight out of school (the reasons for this and the tradeoffs are covered in the Valve employee handbook). Pipeline is an experiment to see if we can take a group of high school students with minimal work experience and train them in the skills and methods necessary to be successful at a company like Valve.”​

    And then Valve will open up a school in which Gabe Newell and a cast of lovably curmudgeonly professors will teach wise-cracking students valuable lessons about both game development and life. There will be copious shenanigans, musicals, and still no Half-Life 3.

    Seriously though, more information will be available “within the next month or so”. I think Pipeline’s goal is admirable too – though again, Valve is said to march to the beat of its own drum, no matter which version of that story you buy. Will the knowledge students mine from this database be applicable elsewhere? Hopefully. But now, onto real issues: Goodness, some of those teenagers had horrendous posture. The future is coming, and it has severe spinal problems at age 25.
     
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    I might have got cancer from this video,the retardness is too much.
     
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  10. felipepepe Prestigious Gentleman Codex's Heretic Patron

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    Oh yeah, fuck programing, games are made of ART! Glorious filming is were the secret lies!
     
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  11. tuluse Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I thought they already announced they're working on both HL3 and Source 2. What concerns me is that Gabe said Valve was done making single player games. So they're gonna be some kind of multiplayer gimmick to it.
     
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  12. Cowboy Moment Arcane

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    Programming not sexy enough brother. Amusingly enough, as a programmer, even if your dream of working in the games industry (being a programmer myself, I do wonder why anyone would willingly walk into that shitheap, but whatever) doesn't come true, you have some pretty good employment prospects elsewhere. Meanwhile, Arts graduates make angry threads in GD about how impossible it is for them to find a job. And this, I fear, will be the result of Valve Pipeline.
     
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  13. more likely
     
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  14. tuluse Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    I don't think they've said that.

    Look at DOTA2, clearly PC only :troll:
     
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  15. anyway in b4 more cartoon graphics in HL3 :troll: not to mention more childish story



    Can you imagine being Valve CEO, having unlimited creative freedom and endless flow of cash, best programmers and artists and the best thing you can produce is retarded multiplayer hat wearing simulator with cartoon graphics and digital download store?
     
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    If that generates the endless flow of cash...
     
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  17. Morgoth Arcane Patron

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    You won't see shit from Valve for a while until they got their Source 2 engine finished.
     
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  18. Source 2 = Source 1 with bigger textures and next gen consoles support.


    I think they are walking a Duke Nukem Forever devs path. Looped to infinity: chasing rest of the world while trying to make something at least a little revolutionary and big.

    In 2011 they were butthurt about Minecraft, today probably by DayZ.
     
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  19. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Well, unlike Minecraft, DayZ makes them a shitload of cash through Arma2 sales.

    I'm fairly sure Valve still doesn't like consoles. Gabe hates them non-open platforms.
     
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  20. IDtenT Contact me for a good time Patron

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    Until he creates his own.
     
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  21. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    What do you mean, "until"? :smug:
     
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  22. In 2011 they were prototyping Ice Gun and Flamethrower in source.

    The last revolutionary thing in 3d is voronoi real time procedural shattering:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9Fo6wCuK80
    That fits to ice gun.

    Still to slow and problematic to use massively as a gameplay element in normal game.

    I bet all their best brains are working on this now. :smug:
     
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  23. Dexter Arcane

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    Btw. found this official response in regards to Steam Offline Mode: http://steamcommunity.com/discussions/forum/1/864969953572102601/#c864969953730401285
    And somewhat below:
     
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  24. Metro Arcane Beg Auditor

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    I don't get that. If you have no CMs and PR people then... fucking hire some? Valve is rolling in cash.
     
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  25. tuluse Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Why? They have religious devotion without spending any money on them.
     
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