Wasteland The Wasteland 2 Beta Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

http://i1.minus.com/ibaLUnTHu21h6e.jpg looks like the usual tunnels to me. The devil is in the detail.

 

Niiice stuff, now if only they could fix the keyword system... not that Divnity OS does it particulary well but conversations are muuuch better when dialog trees feel like... you know, dialog trees! Pls inXile, hoarding keywords makes the dialog flow feel totally unnatural, just make it so some of them can be accesed based on context and the rest by the typical "Let me ask you something".

 

Yes keyword system is br0000ken.

 

I haven't had the urge this high to bitchslap someone in a very long time.

But at least the illusion of openness is there when other maps did not have even that.

 

Good update on my part, I'm curious how there can be more trees near the explosion area. Green bombs
Or maybe that is some kind of post apocalyptic amphitheatre.

 

You don't need to. Inxile already did that when they decided to build the feedback system so it's only one way and ignore the customer completely. There is zero value is sending feedback.

 

I don't even...

They may lack in other departments but not reacting to feedback is not one of them.

 

I think veryalien wants responses about suggesting new features and not bugs and try to debate with the devs about them implementing those features or something. at least I think that's what he/she meant with the FTL save feature post.

Anyway I think the tracker is similar to Rimworld Bug Tracker, Where QAs list the bugs and requests and assign priorities and the devs check to see. I think some modders also make a similar trackers.

Edit:
I kinda thought Phantasmal, Zed or Hiver will try and suggest a few improvements to the UI and show their mock ups like before when the UI was first revealed since InXile now are asking for feedback about it directly.

 

veryalien wants each beta version delivered to his home by Brian Fargo himself on a gold-plated USB drive and called back personally for each piece of feedback he submitted.
Then one time a week he expects a limo to pick him up at his place, drive him to the airport where a private jet will fly him to the inXile HQ, which he will enter walking over a red carpet, so he can discuss his valuable feedback in person with his buddies at inXile. This is nothing unreasonable.
After all his 50 bucks or so towards the beta access fucking paid for this privilege!

 

So.... Are people finally getting some hopes that this game might be good?

Like I've been saying for months on end... have patience bro's.... we still got like 4-5 months dev time left....

Have faith.

 

Faith is for tards, why take anything for granted? I'd wager that the game is a lot better because people critiqued it,(Oftentimes harshly) instead of just assuming the devs were like minded and would fix it.

 

Faith is not taking anything for granted. It's the belief that the devs have the will and the capability to CHANGE the game into something better, by listening to critique and other stuff.. and THEN making it better..

Which they have shown to be able to do, again and again, eventho what was first seen, was very basic and well.. bland.


Faith. In slang terms, just.. cut inXile some slack. They seem to have the hearts and minds in the right place (mostly) let's see if they can pull it off towards the end with our help.

 

Eh... more like 2 months until they are just balancing stuff. Looking at this I have faith that L.A. will be better than Arizona, but if it will be GOOD is still up in the air. And I doubt they'll have time to go back to older areas and "iterate" them to be open areas with buildings you can actually enter, so it will be a very uneven game.

Must be the first game where the first half sucks and the later one is more polished and interesting.

 

Atleast it's turnbased.

 

So, I haven't played this since the first "beta". Is it actually possible to zoom out to this level: http://i1.minus.com/ibaLUnTHu21h6e.jpg

If not, why?

 

Nope.

 

Shit, right.

 

This touchingly naive perspective just made my heart break.

Try to think about this from the developer's POV. Releasing something as early access has two benefits. The main motivating one is, more $$$. The other is, you have a bunch of extra people to do QA for your game, but that value is largely offset by the inevitable distaste that the unfinished product will leave in the mouths of people who are the most central to your target audience.

What could possibly be the motivation to have people pay for beta, and then have your company spend all the extra money they brought in responding to beta testers so they can feel like special snowflakes and armchair developers?

I cannot fathom how one could expect shelling out an extra 30$ could somehow afford them the privilege of having the developer waste time responding to every marginal piece of feedback they might have to offer. Get real. I'm far from positive about this game, but one thing I'm not concerned about is whether or not inxile is hearing feedback - we know they are. Whether or not they choose to act on any specific piece of feedback is their prerogative, Kickstarter or not.


It's like buying a unit in a condo before it's built based on drawings and developer assurances - sure you might be able to get them to put a different color of curtain in your unit if they haven't already ordered everything in bulk, but what you're talking about is like getting butthhurt that they're not now going to listen to your feedback to build a pool in the common area, and thank you for the suggestion at the same time.

 

I notice this a lot. People assume this is about vanity when it's not. All I want to know is if bug report #4232131421 I filed has been fixed or not. That way I can retest or just move on.

It's not about feeling special at all. It's just straight forward QA process. Instead we're expected to stuff a box and carry on.

Also it would not have cost them so much money to have the same internal tickets update the ones in Code center they are linked to. A simple "this is closed" is good enough.

 

You will know it after reading all fixes done in an update.

 

Is that a recent screenshot? Because the UI is a million times better that way. Really, huge improvement!