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Wasteland The Wasteland 2 Beta Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'inXile Entertainment' started by sea, Dec 12, 2013.

  1. Athelas Arcane

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  2. Daedalos Arcane The Real Fanboy

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    Why is it way better to be cynical? How does that help anything? Why not be hopeful? InXile isn't some random developer, it's Brian Fargo and alot of well-known industry people from days of old. They haven't proven themselves yet, because they haven't released any product yet, true.. so why not just wait with being sceptical, until it really matters later in development. Got no real reasons for being this cynical/sceptical at this point. And don't give me the beta as a reason. That is a work in progress. Until Brother None, Fargo or others actually tell us what is up, what CAN and will be improved upon within their own timeline and budget, we shouldn't be that cynical.

    I'm waiting for Brother None's response as to how much of the game is still subject to change at this point, combat, quests, UI, art, graphics etc.
     
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  3. Ninjerk Arcane

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    You would be really popular with the mods on the Eidos forums. zwanzig_zwoelf AlexOfSpades and there's someone I"m forgetting
     
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  4. Apexeon Arcane

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    Set the bar have I.

    Imagine fallout a ****en action rpg like Diablo.
    Hands start to shake violently reaches for the cask wine.
     
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  5. Infinitron I post news Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy Dead State Divinity: Original Sin Project: Eternity Torment: Tides of Numenera Wasteland 2 Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 A Beautifully Desolate Campaign Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    I think you need to lay off that wine cask a bit, bro
     
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  6. jagged-jimmy Prophet

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    That's why Tim is and will always be such a Bro. Other faggots like Sawyer and MCA must provide something good first. Not some stuff that was kinda okay a couple of years in the past. Something big.
     
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  7. You rang?
    Oh, I see.
    So, fanboys, would you kindly gift me early access key if you want me to bathe in the game's greatness so much to somehow back your praising words up?
    :smug:
     
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  8. Sensuki Arcane Cuck

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    Codex 2014 Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong A Beautifully Desolate Campaign
    I'm not sure Cain is the same man he was 20 years ago, I wonder what games his partner likes (probably consolefag shit).
     
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  9. DeepOcean Arcane

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    Go to any forum that go by this "be hopeful" idea, some times you even start thinking that all posts were made by the same person. "Be hopeful" can easily degenerate to "you should not talk anything wrong about my beloved developer" besides, it's now where being cynical gets the best results as the game can still be changed. Being cynical when the game can't be changed at all is too late.

    People are lazy bastards, developers aren't excluded, praise them for no reason and they sure will pretend that everything is okay even if the game is a piece of shit. Make clear to them that you won't accept bullshit and they are forced to raise their standards, if most people were cynical instead of drooling fanboys we won't even need kickstarter at all to get good games.
     
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  10. Xenich Cipher

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    Why be either? Why not be objective based on the facts and leave emotional assumptions to the fanatics? I imagine that there are a few around here who have stacks of expensive storage medium and drink coasters due to assumptions about a game developers intent or reputation as it concerned a given products release. Eventually you realize that reputation and good intentions aren't what produce quality content and that each work must be objectively evaluated in order to insure that a developer stays diligent in their efforts; true to their cause. Mainstream products operate on marketing reputation and hopeful fan devotion because when they are evaluated objectively, they are seen lacking and gimmick based.
     
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  11. Monkeyfinger Augur

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    The problem isn't with people being critical, it's with them making crap predictions for the future based on what they see now

    If you think you have advice that can make wasteland 2 better, state it concisely and be done with it. Don't bury it within paragraphs of empty text about how you think the game can't possibly be changed in meaningful ways, how the kickstarter RPGs are all empty promises, how all the hopeful people are apologetic fanboys who will eat crow, and all that.
     
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  12. Xenich Cipher

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    People often make predictions that a given problem will be miraculously fixed before release as well as it concerns games being developed. I am not saying it justifies negative predictions, but the issue isn't a one sided one.

    It isn't the responsibility of the consumer. Consumers complain, object, show concern, etc... in many forms. It is then up to the producer to decide if those objections and concerns warrant change. The consumer shouldn't have to suggest anything, they merely have to point out what they don't like. The developers job is to figure out alternate solutions.

    Personally, I think extreme distrust and caution is warranted these days. There have been too many scams (ie bait and switch, false advertising, etc...) over the years concerning game development. They are going to have to earn their reputations again.
     
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  13. hiver Guest

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    How about you stop spraying that around and telling people what exactly they need to do to get yours or someone elses approval - and start talking about the FUCKING FACTS of the BETA - right fucking now.
     
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  14. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite

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  15. Brother None inXile Entertainment Developer

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    Sure.
     
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  16. Tigranes Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    And that will be your epitaph when Lithuanian hitmen take you out in Summer 2014 :troll:
     
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  17. Arkeus Arcane

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    Outsourcing your hitmen?

    You are just going to end up with hitmen that will kill the neighbours instead of Brother None. You have to be Cynic!
     
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  18. ZagorTeNej Arcane

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    MCA made Planescape Torment which makes him an eternal Bro regardless of how many times he got raped by wolves in Arcanum or his popamole tastes these days so yeah, fuck off.
     
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  19. hiver Guest

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    Dont be such a noob, sto mu bubnjeva darkvuda.
     
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  20. jagged-jimmy Prophet

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    I wasn't much impressed by RP quality of Torment. It's a very good story/adventure - but a lot is missing for a true RPG. MCA is in good standing, i'd say.
     
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  21. Jedi Master Radek Arcane

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    After the steam sale ended W2 is on16th position on bestseller list. During sale it was usually about 80-100 th with some irregularities like being 40th or not being on list at all. I think that resources for improving the game are definitely quite abundant right now.
     
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  22. MasterSmithFandango Arcane

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    Since when is making a JRPG something that makes a dev an eternal Bro? He also made Alpha Protocol, which is an instantaneous brolapse.
     
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  23. xemous I have shit taste in games

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    Planesape torment is shit


    Planescape torment is like this forums version of Bioshock infinite

    Sent from my GT-I9505
     
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  24. Lhynn Arcane

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    Since when is torment a jrpg and since when are jrpgs intrinsically bad you uneducated, try2hard piece of shit.
     
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  25. MasterSmithFandango Arcane

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    :butthurt:
     
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