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The Witcher 3 Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

Discussion in 'CD Projekt Red' started by Bruticis, Feb 5, 2013.

  1. Immortal Arcane

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    Okay this was actually interesting to read.. but explain why Might affects Fire arm damage.
     
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  2. Clockwork Knight Arcane

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    You're swinging your arm really hard before every pull of the trigger so the bullets come out of the barrel faster.
     
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  3. Immortal Arcane

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    In b4 Dual Flintlock with Silver Bullet in Witcher 4
     
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  5. Perkel Arcane

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    Well PoE might idea imo is bad but reasoning behind is sound. Might isn't strength. It is simply how good you are naturally in combat (technique ?). So better aiming, better swings, better chanting etc.

    They had ninja stars in books sooo....

    also TW world is set just before start of industrial revolution so muskets and stuff like that wouldn't be that far fetched.
     
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  6. Immortal Arcane

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    BETTER BULLETS
     
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  7. Clockwork Knight Arcane

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    Maybe better aiming causes you to hit squishier bits, thus causing more damage? idk, damage and HP are already pretty abstract to begin with.
     
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    Will this game have combo attacks unlocked like Arkham Asylum?
    Or will I continue to abuse the same move from the start till finish?
     
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  9. Immortal Arcane

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    I'm just being antagonistic, I don't care one ounce how realistic my RPG's are when it comes to stat abstractions.. I can think of a list of things wrong with PoE and Might being a poor abstraction for damage on long ranged weapons doesn't even come close to something important to me.
     
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  10. hiver Guest

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    Shut your retarded hole your fucking stupid turd and dont speak unless you are spoken to! You fucking brainless cheap shit.


    I am very well aware that plate armor was not as prohibitive or as heavy as some people think... unless it was a heavy plate armor which you know... was extra heavy, but it sure as hell was not something you would do fucking cartwheels in.

    Plate armor does not provide full movement of ALL joints, which is EXACTLY what can be observed in that fucking stupid video you yourself posted - WHICH IS NOT FULL METAL PLATE ARMOR AT ALL.
    Look at that fucking picture above!

    Another big difference is between a guy dicking around in parts of a half plate without helmet for five minutes and someone engaged in fucking deadly combat which require maximal physical extortion and therefore depletes stamina extremely quickly.

    And then that 15-20 kilos of stiff armor - which always includes various other protective clothing underneath tends to become a MUCH BIGGER PROBLEM.



    Now, as your precious witcher is concerned i dont give a flying fuck what he wears and how many fucking cartwheels he makes in this stupid fucking game.
    But dont go around trying to create your fucking version of reality just so you can feel better about the fucking action fantasy game - because inventing idiotic things about real armors and real fucking use and effects of them have nothing to fucking do with this fucking video game.
     
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    fucking fuck fuckers fuck fuck fuck fucking FUCK!!!!!
     
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  12. Sacibengala Savant

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  13. RK47 collides like two planets pulled by gravity Patron

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    Your simpleton stupid proclamations and declaratory oneliners only show how fucking stupid and limited you are.
     
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  14. dragonul09 Arcane Edgy

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    I like how you keep talking like you know exactly how it feels to wear one.That's what i really love about people these days,they keep talking like they experienced everything in life ,yet they never left their fucking dungeon since they were born.Don't even know why i bothered to reply to such a fucking dumb creature.
     
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  15. hiver Guest

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    Do you know how it feels to wear one? Does someone even need to actually wear fucking plate armor to know how it affects movement and stamina?
    Do you think it is not possible to learn something by fucking reading about it?

    Then what the fuck are you talking about you cretinous fucking imbecile?? Who the fuck asked you anything? And who the fuck told you to go screaming around about other peoples posts like you are some goddamn sheriff telling anyone what they are supposed to talk about?!?
    SHUT THE FUCK UP!


    Who the fuck ever said that archers are weak?
    What the fuck are you talking about?

    whaaaat?

    Thats "reality" is it?
    You just write reality and put a punctuation point behind it and thats it! Reality. Bam!

    What the fuck is average and how the fuck do you know who is average or not?
     
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  16. dragonul09 Arcane Edgy

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    Hearing and reading about something does not qualify as perceiving or experiencing it.I hate people like you,the ''know it all'' type that spew bullshit everywhere they go like they experienced everything in life,then they tell you ''Oh i read about it in some book 20 years ago''.
    Piss off and stop making a fool out of yourself.
     
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    Conan did a thing about this.

     
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  18. hiver Guest

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    I dont know everything you fucking cretinous stupid turd. What you hate is your own fucking stupid brain thats splurging those idiotic fucking ideas.
    Have you ever fucking heard of studying something? Going to school?
    No?

    well shut the fuck up you stupid fucking moron.


    Conan is cool.

    Stupid. But cool.

    Not a lot of people can claim that achievement.
     
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  19. Cadmus Arcane

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    Conan is an annoying idiot and he's cool if you're 12.
     
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    Conan popamoles well.
     
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    It is not that plate rmor is very movement restrictive on the battlefield, but in the context of The Witcher (book lore), wearing it makes no sense. Geralt was always an extreme case of agility and mobility, 'strike and not be striked' kind of fighter. That was because no armor would protect him from super-strong monsters, and dodging their attacks was the only defence he had available. Even parrying was out of the question, as his silver sword was too brittle for that, and most of the monsters were so strong that it would do no good anyway. The only 'monster parrying' he had done was grazing them with the blade to cause pain and recoil (silver was harmful to them). He would really only parry with his steel sword, when fighting humans.

    Geralt was also never mentioned to be superhumanly strong, he was just pretty strong for a human. Something like 7/10, maybe 8. ;)

    In books he only wore leather, to get some general protection and not leave skin exposed (because many monsters he fought were poisonous?), but I do not remember any instance when it was mentioned that his 'armour' saved him from an attack that would otherwise be deadly/crippling/whatever (might be a case faulty memory, though). He never even considered wearing anything heavier, because it was clear from context that would be suicide.

    Obviously, having more armour types in the game is better for many gamers' perspective, and CDPR clearly does not give a shit about book lore when moving away from it makes better gameplay (in their opinion). For me, it would be great if there were five types of armour in the game (Gothic style, woohoo) and if wearing breastplate would mean you lose enough edge to not be able to dodge those superhumanly fast monsters (which should one-shot you, basically), but I do understand that designers want to give people more options. Although once again it comes to mind that artificially forcing all these RPG mechanics in is somewhat detrimental to the game, and it would be better if they made it more of an action-adventure.

    And maybe fans will make a Lore Accurate Rebalance Patch (L.A.R.P.) at some point.
     
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  22. hiver Guest

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    That was actually a very good episode. Made me lol a lot. Unicorn secx :lol:


    At least he is honest about how much he is invested and what actually attracts players in this game. What will be the though process of most of its players.
    Surprising to see the other guy actually knowing the finer details of the canon lore.


    Talk about armors is unnecessary crap. The games never followed lore that closely since the beginning so it makes no fucking sense to complain about it now. Especially for a fucking action game with thousands of combat encounters.
     
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  23. made Arcane

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    If we're talking realism here, Geralt should definitely be dual wielding Katanas instead of those lame longswords of his since they've been proven on numerous occasions to offer superior penetration - especially if you need to fight ice golems and such.
     
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    Nah, he should Igni his sword.
     
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  25. hiver Guest

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    We are not talking realism.

    Its just that Perkel tried to distort realism in order to excuse things in the game, which makes no sense anyway and is nothing but hypocrisy.
     
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