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Guys I appreciate the edginess and everything but so far I haven't actually seen this game get any good reviews from gaming journalists. Sites like RPS seemed extremely skeptical about it, last I looked.
 
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Guys I appreciate the edginess and everything but so far I haven't actually seen this game get any good reviews from gaming journalists. Sites like RPS seem extremely skeptical about it, last I looked.
There was 90/100 from some crappy magazine.
 

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Guys I appreciate the edginess and everything but so far I haven't actually seen this game get any good reviews from gaming journalists. Sites like RPS seem extremely skeptical about it, last I looked.
There was 90/100 from some crappy magazine.

A Spanish magazine and some northern european magazine broke the review embargo (The fact that there is an embargo up until release speaks of trouble) Both of them gave it glowing scores.
 
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First they claimed it was blogspam, then they claimed that someone linking to it on other forums (forums which aren't google indexed) was vote manipulation, now they're claiming I used an army of alts to upvote it (despite the votes ticking down immediately if someone upvotes the /r/gaming post, indicating that someone is straight up botting that thread) and literally saying "You'll just have to trust us". Smell the desperation in the coverup?

Deimorz got strongarmed / paid off by Square Enix. It's not the first time he's done this.

So basically anyone dumb enough to go to reddit for news on games deserves what they find? Right-o, business as usual.
 

zwanzig_zwoelf

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The DotA 2 gear from it actually doesn't look bad.
...and that's the last good thing about the game.

I just downloaded Thief Gold again. Gotta install all necessary fixes and relax for a couple of hours.
 

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First they claimed it was blogspam, then they claimed that someone linking to it on other forums (forums which aren't google indexed) was vote manipulation, now they're claiming I used an army of alts to upvote it (despite the votes ticking down immediately if someone upvotes the /r/gaming post, indicating that someone is straight up botting that thread) and literally saying "You'll just have to trust us". Smell the desperation in the coverup?

Deimorz got strongarmed / paid off by Square Enix. It's not the first time he's done this.
It has nothing to do with google indexing. Web browsers send the URL of the page you clicked the link on with every request.

But I didn't know you could get IP banned from reddit. I've been there for years and the place has lots of annoying retards that get repeatedly shadowbanned (a shitty practice that I disapprove of) and they just make new accounts and continue. Weird.
 

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I've had a chance to sleep now, and think better about my last post. Shadenuat is correct - if I call upon my experience and merely glance at something, and then use that to write a review that will be published and used as a basis for other people's opinions, then I'm doing something very wrong. I can only give my personal opinion; a review is a slightly more complicated matter that has to go through a due process of sorts - sadly not all gaming journalists tend to bother even with that.

I worked briefly as a gaming journalist here in Iceland, the briefness of that career was due to the fact that I wrote my mind, not what my editor wanted me to write. But it gives me some experience in that field, so I'm going to give gaming journalists the slack here that they deserve: Trying to write a review for a game that is boring, unintersting, without instructions of any kind or just plain broken is a painstaking process, it will wear you down if you have to do that on a regular basis. Spellcaster touched on this, most gamers keep the memory alive of the games they enjoyed, rarely of the games they hated. Of the 10 or so games that I reviewed (and received free copies for) I only kept the copy of Serious Sam: FE, because that was the only game I really enjoyed reviewing. (Still only gave it a 8/10 review.)

The above words still don't change the fact that we need a better breed of gaming journalists all round. The field is badly in need of experienced gamers AND journalists that aren't so tight with the publishers that they wear the same underwear.
 

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Dramatically saving chicks seems like a hit nowadays, with Halo being exemplary in that regard. The story of poor girls with some powerz is probably considered very deep by console standards, as there are also Deus Ex with tortured womyncomputers, Bioshock and Dishonored.
It also invariably fails to engage player the way it's used.

No matter who you kill or harm, how and what's the cinematic reaction of the protagonist to it, player won't care if it happens within first 5 or 15' of your game.
It's because player won't get to form any sort of attachment or investment so soon, no there is no way around it, and yes, it makes this sort of story hook or narrative axis absolutely worthless.
Worse, showing the popagonist care a lot actually works against any such connection, because it disconnects the player from their supposed character in addition to the plot.
 

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Worse, showing the popagonist care a lot actually works against any such connection, because it disconnects the player from their supposed character in addition to the plot.

Even worse if the protagonist is established as a largely unemotional misanthrope, concerned about self preservation above all else. FFS, the first thing Garrett says in TME is "I've always equated feelings with being caught".

Guess the Eidos writers just read the plot section of the Thief wikipedia article, because obviously they have no idea what the plot and setting of the originals were
 

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most gamers keep the memory alive of the games they enjoyed, rarely of the games they hated

No. Exactly opposite! A big number of titles is memorable only because they were bad. Really bad. You know... a long awaited sequel to quality franchise being a train wreck. Overhyped title: unbelievably bad product and complete waste of money. Result of years of work of a professional company: a bizarre show of incompetency. Application for 201x hardware: so laughably simple it makes any of its 199x predecessors a masterwork. Complex in- game lore: cheap rip- off or clean reboot with no quality whatsoever.

My private study on human reaction to "Daikatana" proves it completely. Everyone know it's bad. Even if subject never heard of it, he still gets some subconscious vibe it's bad. Enough failure points and the game will get far deeper in your brain than any well- made yet average game.

The so- called "Thief 4" got so many failure points I assume it's the worst train wreck I witnessed for years. Not memorable though. First, THE FRANCHISE WAS ALREADY FUCKED UP BY DEADLY SHADOWS. When Deadly Shadows got released, there's nothing left to rage about. Second, In my book the section "Memorably bad games" contains titles more dissappointing than a mere failure of Square Enix' slaves. Like so- called "Fallout 3". Or so- called "Deus Ex" Invisible War. Or Age of Decadence.
 

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. First, THE FRANCHISE WAS ALREADY FUCKED UP BY DEADLY SHADOWS. When Deadly Shadows got released, there's nothing left to rage about..
No, no and NO. DS might be the worst from the trilogy, but it still has the atmosphere, the stealth mechanic, the good levels. It was not a franchise rape. Thiaf is the rape.
 

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So, to those who watched it through, what's the story about the baron's "twisted vision of progress". Is he really evil?
 

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Guys I appreciate the edginess and everything but so far I haven't actually seen this game get any good reviews from gaming journalists. Sites like RPS seemed extremely skeptical about it, last I looked.
It's clearly a crap game that's mostly going to get hammered.
 

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The real question here is: who will be blamed for the commercial failure of the game, pirates?

...or maybe the fact that it is too old school and challenging...
 

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The real question here is: who will be blamed for the commercial failure of the game, pirates?

...or maybe the fact that it is too old school and challenging...

Everyone but the developer and publisher, of course.
 

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The real question here is: who will be blamed for the commercial failure of the game, pirates?

...or maybe the fact that it is too old school and challenging...

Everyone but the developer and publisher, of course.

The CEO of Eidos Montreal was already fired/forced to resign due to the mismanagement of Thiaf: http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...l-ceo-quits-replaced-by-dx-hr-producer.84977/

Fully expecting them to become "The Deus Ex Studio" after this.
 

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