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Things that will never work out but devs are pushing them still.

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Perkel, Oct 19, 2014.

  1. Perkel Arcane

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    Motion controls.

    Everytime i see something like this :

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    I just roll eyes. Because ther is no chance most of people suddenly will want to actually walk in games personally. Whole point of gaming is to sit on your fat ass and do absolutely nothing. This is also why most of motions fads are dying. Because realize that if you would want to move in first place you wouldn't play a computer game.
    What is more important motion usually give less precision thus shitty controls

    All those wiimotes, razers hydras and so on can't replicate ingame weapon feel so in the end it is just piece of fucking plastic without any feedback.


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    Time Travel. Everytime dev wants to use it in plot, it usually means that plot is so weak that it needs time travel to connect dots.
    Even when time travel is logically explained and actually has some interesting things to it, it never adds anything better than if dev would simply wrote better story without it.

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    SHOTGUNS being malee range weapon. Every fucking time i see shotgun in games they are either A) complete shit B) they are only effective at super close range which means they are shit. Effectiveness is one thing but accuracy is completely another thing. I don't fucking understand how few small led bullets are missing more than one copper bullet usually at the same distance. Reason why people hunt ducks with shotguns is that they are more accurate at a distance than for example m16 due to spread of led bullets.
    I can count shotguns on my one hand that were not shit.
     
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  3. Perkel Arcane

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    obviously you missed something important after SHOTGUNS part.
     
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  4. Ed123 Arcane Patron

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    I think gloves would be the limit of what most core peecee users would accept as a replacement for the maus. Assuming they ever become reliable and precise enough, that is (possibly in tandem with some sort of sciencemajickistic virtual keyboard). Not sure how to wank properly with them, though. Perhaps by that point nanomachines would be sophisticated enough to do simple tasks such as shave our legs or swarm together and give us a handjob.
     
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  5. Lyric Suite Converting to Islam

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    You had me on the motion control thing, lost me with everything else.
     
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  6. Ed123 Arcane Patron

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    Doom
    Ultimate Doom
    Doom 2
    Master Levels for Doom 2
    Final Doom
    Blood

    That's two hands already, assuming you're not a mutant :troll:
     
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    Learn to count, Ed123 that's only three games. Doom and Ultimate Doom are the same game (one being the "Deluxe" edition) and Master Levels for Doom 2 and Final Doom are add-ons for Doom 2.
     
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  8. Lyric Suite Converting to Islam

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    I sort of liked the Half Life one as well. But really, in retrospective, i haven't played that many FPS games and almost none since, what, 2002? Most first person games i've played after that have not really been pure shooters so i don't think they count.
     
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  9. Perkel Arcane

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    I don't count shotgun "feel". I count effectiveness.

    Just because it do nice Pew pew doesn't invalidate problem with range (which is for most games few meters)
     
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  10. Ed123 Arcane Patron

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    They wuz commerically available, that makes them seperate gnomes in my book, like Rise of the Witch King :smug:

    And stop tagging me you cunts, at least I'm deliberately trying to annoy people when I do it :kwanzania:
     
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  11. dryan Arcane

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    Voice acting.

    Most of the time it makes me cringe and detracts from the game rather than adding to it.
    A few exceptions exist, of course.
     
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  12. AlexOfSpades Prophet

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    Making a good story involving time travel can lead up to extremely complicated shenanigans, and pretty much multiplies exponentially the odds of having plot holes. It's not a fad, never was a fad and most definitely is not used as a shitty story device unless its used as a cheap way to revive someone, but then again there are many other cheap ways to revive characters.

    Shotguns play that way not because devs think its realistic, but its because of gameplay. If shotguns had the range they have in real life, they would fill the same role as a semi-automatic rifle in most games (unless you're counting games with enormous maps, which are a minority). For gameplay purposes, they have exaggerated spread to fill a close-range role that other weapons don't dominate so well. It's a gimmick.
     
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  13. Perkel Arcane

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    If we talk about good shotguns:

    - soldier of fortune 1
     
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  14. Ed123 Arcane Patron

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    I think, on average, most generic AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA popamole games do an ok job with voice actors. They could hire cartoon or stage VAs for the same quality for a fraction of the price, of course, but w/e. Pushing VA has been extremely destructive for games like Oblobian or SKyrim, ofc. It absolutely decimates the range of possible dialogue options and makes it extremely difficult to fix errors since once the lines are recorded, bringing the VAs back in is a PITA. What few lines of emotionally engaging dialogue were present in Skyrim were generally limited to major NPCs. The drawbacks of forcing it on all NPCs greatly outweighed the pros. Next game there will be only three different types of items so that the shopkeepers can regurgitate witty context-sensitive lines about swords, gems and armour 300 times.
     
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    Arguably the best adventure game of all time, due to the time travelling gimmick it has some of the best puzzles the genre has to offer
    Arguably the best JRPG of all time (not counting dungeon crawlers, SRPGs or ARPGs), due to the time travelling gimmick it has whopping 13 different endings (C&C)
     
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    I remember playing Doom in VR helmet with a weirdo controller. It was pretty awesome except for the part where playing Doom-era FPS makes me nauseous.
     
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  17. Ed123 Arcane Patron

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    I remember watching Tv shows in the 90s showing someone controlling video games WITH THEIR MIND. It was basically left/right/up/down/fire, unfortunately. If we can get to a point at which I can play Fallout 10 with a mtn dew in one hand and a bag of doritos (free of all taste in line with Executive Order 213213 issued by the Bloomberg administration in 2037, of course) in the other, I'll know that we as a species can truly call ourselves civilized.
     
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  18. Sodafish Arcane

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    QTEs.
     
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    Lockpicking minigames :x
     
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  20. Tehdagah Arcane

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    Realistic AI.

     
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  21. sser Arcane Cuck Developer

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    How about that retarded concussive wave or whatever the fuck that is whenever a melee weapon hits a wall.

    It's only cool if it's in slow-motion.

    And made by a grenade.

    In F.E.A.R.
     
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  22. Leonorai Novice

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    The shotgun thing is also due to this http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheCoconutEffect . Essentially stating that people are easily frightened imbeciles and wouldn't know what to do with themselves if a shotgun was effective at a longer range than what they're used to.

    The trends that bug me are achievements, mandatory multiplayer and endless amounts of cinematics. It's like every studio wants to be a Hollywood dudebro rockstar dev but lack the IQ for the actual dev part. Everything these days if focused on online, twitchy gameplay with social media integration.

    This is the only case where both the old and the new generation of games are shit. Everything inbetween 1990-2007 exists in some magic dimension that's now lost.
     
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  23. Whisky The Solution

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    The shotgun melee thing always really bugged me. It's funny because Doom, a very early fps did not use it that way and it was your most well rounded gun. They were smart enough to realize that discerning souls prefer chainsaws up close.

    Some games aren't as bad about it, but CoD's cotton candy pellets are the worst.

    Seriously, a gun in melee...
     
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  25. Sodafish Arcane

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    That's some excessive trigger discipline.
     
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