Torment Torment: Tides of Numenera Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Infinitron]

http://colinmccomb.com/?p=243

Invading our world.

The dream Adam and I began discussing nearly 3 years ago with Kevin Saunders and Brian Fargo is slowly nearing reality. Its tendrils reach into our world, tearing apart the fabric of existence, birthing itself through force of will.

A couple of weeks ago, we released our first Alpha Systems Test, A0. This test contains both the first conversation in the game, “Falling”, and Fathom 13, our first playable space. Fathom 13 is also a narrative character generator, which means that the choices you make within that area help determine the skills and abilities of your character throughout the rest of Torment: Tides of Numenera. (I freely admit that our inspiration was old-school Ultima)

Yesterday we released B0, the first taste of the PC’s experience in the real world, allowing our players to explore the Broken Dome and the Reef of Fallen Worlds, and introducing two of our companions: Aligern and Callistege. The area was designed by George Ziets, and much of the text in this area was written by Gavin Jurgens-Fyhrie, with Adam Heine providing design oversight. Environment art for these two areas was created by Paul Fish and Jon Gwyn.

More is coming. I think you’ll be happily surprised.

 

[Transfiguring Roar]

I enjoyed the exploration in B0, in particular interacting with the numerous numenera in the Reef of Fallen Worlds map. Looking forward to seeing the larger picture CnC of these interactions. The map itself looks quite nice too.

 

[Infinitron]

Hey, there is! The Unity Asset Explorer has been updated to support Unity 5: http://zenhax.com/viewtopic.php?t=36 (it's actually 1.5)

Disunity doesn't support it yet though.

Can somebody use this to extract portraits from the game for the Codex avatar gallery?

 

[Daedalos]

Holy fucking shit, I'm getting the right kind of vibes from that lastest AST build. This is going to be amazing by looks and feels of it all.

I didn't even find the animations etc. that sluggish, but it's an alpha, so whatever, y'know.

 

[Gondolin]

 

[CMcC]

...aaaaaaand Tweeted.

 

[Gondolin]

...aaaaaaand Tweeted.

I'll have you know that's a 100% original and amazingly funny work of ART that I put together in Paint in about 5 minutes, but... meh... you can tweet it.

 

[Shammy]

This looks like its shaping up really really well. Hopefully the rest of the game has the same kind of quality!

On a side note, do we have any more information on combat besides the fact that its turn based?

 

[SniperHF]

On a side note, do we have any more information on combat besides the fact that its turn based?

Well it's probably worth delving into the Crisis system.
http://tormentrpg.tumblr.com/post/92560910675/adam-talks-crises
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0besHVJZpvFU1RaY0dGWlZ5V0U/edit?pli=1
https://forums.inxile-entertainment.com/viewtopic.php?t=10146

Important to note that Crisis doesn't necessarily equal combat but most of the significant combats (all?) will be during a Crisis.
Tussles are the lesser combats.


I'm going in pretty close to blind to both Numenera systems and most of the update material since the KS campaign ended. Once there's a true alpha or beta that has a sequence of play to dig in I'll get more nitpicky about it. Most of the terminology just sort of blurred together for me till playing B0 since it finally puts something tactile to the concepts. A0/A1 was too scripted to be all that interesting to me in a vacuum.

 

[ArchAngel]

Numenera's system is very rudimentary.

There are ten difficulty levels. To beat an attack or hit an enemy, there's a difficulty level. You roll a d20. Level 1 = 3 and level 10 = 30. You can spend effort to make the difficulty go down.

Health is in three pools, Might Speed and Intellect. You spend points to make attacks and apply effort. If you spend all of your points or lose them from being hit you die. Whee.

Also all attacks attack Speed, Might or Intellect so they are also your saving throws and called Speed/Might/Intellect Defense. You can become trained and then specialized in each to reduce chance of getting hit.
Also there is armor that works as damage reduction and shields that are bonus to Speed Defense.

 

[Shammy]

Well it's probably worth delving into the Crisis system.
http://tormentrpg.tumblr.com/post/92560910675/adam-talks-crises
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0besHVJZpvFU1RaY0dGWlZ5V0U/edit?pli=1
https://forums.inxile-entertainment.com/viewtopic.php?t=10146

Important to note that Crisis doesn't necessarily equal combat but most of the significant combats (all?) will be during a Crisis.
Tussles are the lesser combats.


I'm going in pretty close to blind to both Numenera systems and most of the update material since the KS campaign ended. Once there's a true alpha or beta that has a sequence of play to dig in I'll get more nitpicky about it. Most of the terminology just sort of blurred together for me till playing B0 since it finally puts something tactile to the concepts. A0/A1 was too scripted to be all that interesting to me in a vacuum.

Sounds really interesting, definitely a neat take on tabletop rules. I wonder how it'll be translated into the game completely. We've seen the "effort" system when it comes to skill checks, now I just need to see combat to get a good grasp of the systems at work.

 

[DosBuster]

Alright, found a in-game console, going to attempt to track down some commands.

 

[Infinitron]

Alright, found a in-game console, going to attempt to track down some commands.

PORTRAITS

 

[DosBuster]

Found command lines, I can add every party member in the game, will test now.

 

[kain30]

Found command lines, I can add every party member in the game, will test now.

please, share the commands!

 

[DosBuster]

gg, also, it's really easy to find them so consider it a test of your intelligence

 

[Infinitron]

Hey hey, there's the blond guy wearing a brown and green shirt and (I think?) the brown-haired guy wearing an orange and pink tunic! http://www.rpgcodex.net/forums/inde...-go-to-new-thread.79051/page-398#post-3968536

Can you see their names?

 

[DosBuster]

In-game they're referred to as placeholder, here are the names in the code:

Spoiler

Aligern
Callistege
Rritis
Matkina
Oom
Rhin
Riastrad
Tybir
The Specter

 

[Infinitron]

Notice that it uses PoE's companion selection interface - T:ToN isn't even supposed to allow you to have that many party members at once.

Also, since when does this game have nine party members? Maybe one of them is temporary.

 

[Athelas]

I wonder if someone will mod in an expanded party size (or if there will be a console command for it).

Notice that it uses PoE's companion selection interface - T:ToN isn't even supposed to allow you to have that many party members at once.

Also, since when does this game have nine party members? Maybe one of them is temporary.

Isn't nine how many companions were promised during the Kickstarter campaign?

 

[Infinitron]

Isn't nine how many companions were promised during the Kickstarter campaign?

Nope, eg: http://tormentrpg.tumblr.com/post/122252656955/updated-our-journal-44-a-special-offer-torment

For example, 1E includes only four companions, even though all eight companions ultimately will appear in the first quarter of the game.

 

[Athelas]

Nope, eg: http://tormentrpg.tumblr.com/post/122252656955/updated-our-journal-44-a-special-offer-torment

http://numenera.gamepedia.com/Companions

The original plan for Torment: Tides of Numenera was to have four companions, but the success of the Kickstarter campaign permitted five other, for a total of nine.

 

[DosBuster]

It is worth noting I accessed the party management screen using a PoE command, it listed all their classes as Barbarian as well.

 

[Athelas]

Oh now I remember: you have to choose at one point between two companions. So you can only have eight companions on any playthrough.

 

[DosBuster]

Also, you can theoretically have unlimited companions, I spawned them all in at once and it ran kinda fine. You can't talk to them since none of their convo files are in yet, inXile have been good at keeping usused assets out, except for code of course.