Torment Torment: Tides of Numenera Thread

Hi Sherry.

What is your opinion on the recent reveal that Brian Fargo eats hamsters everyday?

It must be very scary and frightening.

Don't worry, we will keep you away from bad Fargo.

Remember to never go to inXile offices alone, especially at night!

Thanks,
JMR

 

I know we're all speculating on 'what went wrong' here so my two cents is that the development process was really decentralised. One of the great things about the original Torment was how well it all hung together, nothing hangs together here. You get some good stuff in the Valley of Dead Heroes but the buildup is pretty dogshit. There doesn't feel like there's a unifying influence to the game. Or at least, it feels that the writers were told 'this here's the theme' and then left to their own devices to shite on on whatever they felt best represented that theme. There was no masterplanner sewing the whole thing together, more of a big brute slamming each part onto the next.

 

From Reddit:

FIVE.MILLIONS.DOLLARS.

FOUR.YEARS.OF.DEVELOPMENT.

That is, summing up:

 

Meanwhile in alternate reality..

• InXile apologizes
• pulls the game from the stores
• delivers on all promises
• creates a masterpiece
• redeems itself and is a bro again

 

Infinitron usually posts if the ip address of the offending interweb personality, if suspicious, yet he's uncharacteristicaly silent.

 

And what complexity do your precious Troika games or TToN offer?

 

LOL, blaming the world's #1 Tim Cain fanclub for Troika going broke.

And yeah, you got us: we only like Planescape: Torment because it's actually a JRPG and has those sweet Final Fantasy summon animations.

 

I was expecting some serious damage control, but maybe he's actually playing the game and can't really defend it?

Or he's working on his resume for that new PR position at inXile.

 

What does one life lie matter?

 

Eyyo listen up my dude ill trade you a Cinderquill for a Squirter. Or I can do you an Oddish if you prefer.

I think that's a pretty fair deal.

 

Time for something more optimistic.

 

LOl! I dont think they can possibly afford to make something like white march. Torment absolutely bombed on steam and console sales are almost non existent, numbers are not even close to POE oh and they are also in the middle of developing BT4 and W3.

 

As Darth Roxor pointed out, they funneled the Numanuma funds into the development of Wasteland 2, with the intent of funneling the BT4 money into Numenera, but they got very few pledges for that. This is the end result.

 

The game has many flaws, but let's try to not be delusional, it's not an offense to the genre and it's enjoyable.

Still, I can understand your anger if you kickstarted it or you paid the 45 german shekels Gaben asked for.

 

I didn't pay anything and I'm still angry. It also depends on what you mean by "offense".

 

If the nps in the game were "expanded depth npcs" i shudder to think what they would have looked like in not strech goal version.

 

This would be a shame. It has interesting world build and the setting. If not this year then maybe next some DLC could squeeze through.

 

It's 1% from receiving Mixed rating and becoming part of Bundle Stars discount offers.

 

So Torment bombed, Deus Ex bombed, Baldur's bombed.. what's next on the list for devs to train wreck.. Vampire and Arcanum?
Is nothing sacred these days?

 

I'm quite confident it still would have been shit without a console version, you can't polish a turd etc.

 

If only they had made any of them good, maybe they wouldn't have bombed... It's quite a poetic justice in a sense though, their very intent of pleasing the popamole crowd for bigger sales is the thing that brings them down.

 

I m still 99% sure that it all went downhill the second they decided to port it on consoles. It probably cost a lot more then they predicted therefore they had to cut VO, locations, simplify role playing system and combat.

 

Imagine what the whole game would've looked like with the initial $900k instead of $4.5M.

...or maybe that's exactly what we got.