Total War: Three Kingdoms - the next major historical Total War title set in ancient China

[Alienman]

Big Dong.

Feels and looks like a WoW trailer instead of something historical.

 

[tabacila]

The "influencers" shat on the early access build so much they are delaying to fix it?

Hahaha.... as if a few months will make any difference.

Western influencers don't matter that much for this game. It is squarely aimed at the Chinese market.
Maybe they realised they weren't going to get approved in China. Western SJW shit like ubiquitous female generals/heroes and representing the yellow turbans as Robin Hood, didn't do nuthin types fighting against the central bureaucracy probably don't make grorious republic's censors very happy.

 

[Lone Wolf]

Feels and looks like a WoW trailer instead of something historical.

Just remember that this is based on the Romance of the Three Kingdoms, not the Record. The Romance is more 'history-inspired' than historical, which is why superhero characters are a thing. Visually, they're also relying on the 2010 television series, which is a debatable choice.

 

[kalganoat]

The "influencers" shat on the early access build so much they are delaying to fix it?

Hahaha.... as if a few months will make any difference.

Western influencers don't matter that much for this game. It is squarely aimed at the Chinese market.
Maybe they realised they weren't going to get approved in China. Western SJW shit like ubiquitous female generals/heroes and representing the yellow turbans as Robin Hood, didn't do nuthin types fighting against the central bureaucracy probably don't make grorious republic's censors very happy.

Did you get that from arch warhammer's video? Lmao

 

[Fedora Master]

1. Why WOULDN'T they censor it?
2. Do chinks even have the IQ to play a TW game?

 

[True Ukrainian]

1. Why WOULDN'T they censor it?
2. Do chinks even have the IQ to play a TW game?

CA better hope they do play TW games. If Steam has proven anything the china market is literally make or break for many devs.

 

[Agame]

Im sure they ARE trying to get those sweet chinese monies, we know Shogun 2s most complained about feature was "The setting is BOOORING GOOOOOK land", so this game is a terrible pitch for western audience. And there is even an interest in funky samurai in the west, who the heck even knows about Romance of 3K except for Dynasty Warrior fans?

Whether or not there is anyone in china remotely interested in a TW game I guess we find out soon...

I for one hope it crashes and burns so they divert all resources back into TW:Warhams!

*edited for unnecessary swearing.

 

[A horse of course]

The "influencers" shat on the early access build so much they are delaying to fix it?

Hahaha.... as if a few months will make any difference.

Western influencers don't matter that much for this game. It is squarely aimed at the Chinese market.
Maybe they realised they weren't going to get approved in China. Western SJW shit like ubiquitous female generals/heroes and representing the yellow turbans as Robin Hood, didn't do nuthin types fighting against the central bureaucracy probably don't make grorious republic's censors very happy.

I don't know (or care) how the period is characterized by official state dogma, but I do know "banditry" (which has a much broader definition when used by Chinese, being applied to the invading Colonial forces during the Opium War, for example), rebellions and peasant uprisings can be portrayed as anything from nationalistic wars of independence to parasitic landowners whipping up treason against the harmony and unity of the state, so who knows how it would be taken by censors. Chinese players are definitely more old-skool when it comes to waifuism, though.

Im sure they ARE trying to get those sweet chinese monies, we know Shogun 2s most complained about feature was "The setting is BOOORING GOOOOOK land", so this game is a terrible pitch for western audience. And there is even an interest in funky samurai in the west, who the heck even knows about Romance of 3K except for Dynasty Warrior fans?

Whether or not there is anyone in china remotely interested in a TW game I guess we find out soon...

I for one hope it crashes and burns so they divert all resources back into TW:Warhams!

There's an interview from somewhere with a SEGA executive where they cite 3Gookdoms as part of their new China-centric business strategy. Whether that means anything deeper regarding why the game exists at all is down to interpretation.

*edited for unnecessary swearing.

Faggot

 

[mwnn85]

I'm betting on this sinking like a stone.
I think they've rode out their luck, past success and any remaining goodwill for far too long.
I don't think this will appeal to either the historical, warhammer or moba crowd - could end up a complete dud like DoW 3.

The horrible caricature art style (straight from Civ 6), moba-like gameplay, old legacy bugs and badly sync'd animations remain.
And half the game will be locked behind DLC's.
Love that soldier exploding into dust when hitting the wall though.
Shamefur dispray.

I can't decide whether it's worth getting the legitimate Shogun 2 Gold for £15 or not in 2019 (for the Linux version)
It's 8 years old this year and might get bundled by Humble again / upgraded to a Definitive Edition / given away in Make War Not Love 6.
Shogun 2 + FoTS complete is usually £17 (75% off) when on offer but has been as low as £8 in separate Humble Bundles.

I caved in and got Total Warhammer for £8 (@Fanatical) last week and the legitimate Arkham trilogy for £9 (@Voidu) the other day.
No way I'm giving Sega £40 for Shogun 2 complete - don't know what planet they're on with their pricing.

 

[razvedchiki]

I'm betting on this sinking like a stone.
I think they've rode out their luck, past success and any remaining goodwill for far too long.
I don't think this will appeal to either the historical, warhammer or moba crowd - could end up a complete dud like DoW 3.

The horrible caricature art style (straight from Civ 6), moba-like gameplay, old legacy bugs and badly sync'd animations remain.
And half the game will be locked behind DLC's.
Love that soldier exploding into dust when hitting the wall though.
Shamefur dispray.

I can't decide whether it's worth getting the legitimate Shogun 2 Gold for £15 or not in 2019 (for the Linux version)
It's 8 years old this year and might get bundled by Humble again / upgraded to a Definitive Edition / given away in Make War Not Love 6.
Shogun 2 + FoTS complete is usually £17 (75% off) when on offer but has been as low as £8 in separate Humble Bundles.

I caved in and got Total Warhammer for £8 (@Fanatical) last week and the legitimate Arkham trilogy for £9 (@Voidu) the other day.
No way I'm giving Sega £40 for Shogun 2 complete - don't know what planet they're on with their pricing.

shogun is a good game if you got the gold buy it,if you find the base game cheaper buy it you dont really need any of the dlcs (expect the fall of the shogun).
even if three kingdoms becomes another disaster launch CA will survive as they have done before (empire,rome 2),their chances are better now with all the newcomer "fans" of the warhammer games.

 

[Raghar]

1. Why WOULDN'T they censor it?
2. Do chinks even have the IQ to play a TW game?

Chinese had IQ to don't pay for games. Dunno if current China is the same.

 

[True Ukrainian]

Trying to sell a Three Kingdoms product in China is like trying to sell ice to eskimos. If CA does not buck up fast, its going to bomb hard. And China loves review bombing games that they think suck or are patronizing.

At least CA can go back to milking warhammer fans who are willing to overlook the systemic issues with TW games.

 

[True Ukrainian]

Trying to sell a Three Kingdoms product in China is like trying to sell ice to eskimos. If CA does not buck up fast, its going to bomb hard. And China loves review bombing games that they think suck or are patronizing.

At least CA can go back to milking warhammer fans who are willing to overlook the systemic issues with TW games.

 

[Rahdulan]

Trying to sell a Three Kingdoms product in China is like trying to sell ice to eskimos. If CA does not buck up fast, its going to bomb hard. And China loves review bombing games that they think suck or are patronizing.

I don't know. They sure buy Dynasty Warriors titles from what I've gathered. Although KOEI always played it fast and loose with historical authenticity while Three Kingdoms is still up in the air with its Classic mode, of which they've shown absolutely nothing. Seeing what central role heroes are playing in the Romance mode so far I kinda doubt they're totally retooling the Classic mode to make them just a bit stronger units.

Big Dong's trailer music for those who liked it:

 

[AwesomeButton]

shogun is a good game if you got the gold buy it,if you find the base game cheaper buy it you dont really need any of the dlcs (expect the fall of the shogun).
even if three kingdoms becomes another disaster launch CA will survive as they have done before (empire,rome 2),their chances are better now with all the newcomer "fans" of the warhammer games.

BTW, did they eventually add a means to have Japanese voice and English text in Shogun 2?

I'm moderately curious about Three Kingdoms (again), but knowing myself and knowing total war games in general, I would start one campaign, play until I'm the obvious regional superpower, and then drop it because it would get boring.

 

[tabacila]

Records mode gameplay:


Pretty much what was expected, though I am surprised they are making fatigue be a bigger factor in this mode.

 

[rashiakas]

so the ui artist played gw2 a lot

 

[AwesomeButton]

I watched this, and I'm moderately interested in the game. Would pirate to try it out. But then I said the same about Thrones of Britannia, and then couldn't be bothered to even pirate that.

It's a matter of whether my Romance of the Three Kingdoms itch will persist long enough.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Great video. Everyone should watch it so they know what exactly to expect.

 

[Athos]

BTW, did they eventually add a means to have Japanese voice and English text in Shogun 2?

As far as I remember, in Shogun 2 units speak already in Japanese. Even the general's speeches are in Japanese with subtitles.

 

[AwesomeButton]

That's an option in Shogun, but in Shogun 2? I don't remember this being in.

 

[Fedora Master]

I will guarantee you that the AI will exhibit the same retarded behaviors it did since R2 while ALSO being worse in various regards. I honestly have no idea how that is even possible, considering the AI in WaWa at least manages to stick to its deployment script and can occasionally be good at flanking and micro-ing.

 

[Athos]

That's an option is Shogun, but in Shogun 2? I don't remember this being in.

In Shogun 2 as default units in battle and the campaign map speak in Japanese, with subtitles only for the pre-battle speeches. The only exaggerated rice accent is in the english voice for the battle advisor, the shamefur dispray guy (in Italian, for example, speaks normally).

 

[Ovg]

To be quite honest, I can't wait to see what's broken this time. We had broken ai in rome 2 to the point they did nothing. We had land ships. We had all shogun2+ games needing you to uncheck and check your last CPU core to finally use your cpu properly. The potential is limitless.

I hope for some hillarious fanboi defenders and idiotic bugs showcased on youtube. It's all CA is good for.

 

[AwesomeButton]

That's an option is Shogun, but in Shogun 2? I don't remember this being in.

In Shogun 2 as default units in battle and the campaign map speak in Japanese, with subtitles only for the pre-battle speeches. The only exaggerated rice accent is in the english voice for the battle advisor, the shamefur dispray guy (in Italian, for example, speaks normally).

Maybe I should finally pick up a cheap key for it somewhere. I've never found how to turn on Japanese voice in a pirated Shogun 2.