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Warhammer Total War: Warhammer 2

Discussion in 'Strategy and Simulation' started by Infinitron, Mar 31, 2017.

  1. Danikas Prophet

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    Looks good.
     
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  2. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    So, Greenskins sound great. Any word about what the high elf part is adding? Not that I'm much of a high elf fan (Tyrion's holier than thou greeting every time you go to the new campaign screen can fuck right off)
     
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  3. Maculo Prophet

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    Not as much relative to the GS rework. From what I recall, Eltharion will have a dual start similar to Malus, a landmark building that will buff Ulthuan, and some HE ROR on steroids.

    I am hoping will hear more details tomorrow. It seems like the NDA on Eltharion has not lifted yet.
     
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  4. Lone Wolf Arcane

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    Black Orc Big Boss all but confirmed. Screenshots show the unit thumbnail.
     
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  5. LizardWizard Arbiter

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    Looking like the most content rich DLC since Norsca with an amazing long overdue rework for best faction. I heard they improved turn times even further.. I can finally play this game

    Grom's Cauldron looks fun. We'll probably see something similar for Ogre Kingdoms
     
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  6. Danikas Prophet

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    So dlc after this is gonna be skaven vs dwarfs they teased orc dlc in shadow and the blade trailer.

    whispers "get ready for da waaaagh :lol:"

    Now they tease skaven dlc in this trailer.
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    No skaven symbols in previous logo ^^
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    Also skaven dlc was teased this way once before in the hunter and the beast trailer next dlc was shadow and the blade:
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  7. Maculo Prophet

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    The NDA lifted on unit stats. Imrik seems strong as hell (an HE version of WAAGGHH?). The new HE archer RoR debuffs additional fire damage, which could synergize well with other HE units.

    I listened to Turin's breakdown, but I am sure there are multiple videos on youtube.

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    CA also released the lord effects: https://www.totalwar.com/games/warhammer-ii/the-warden-the-paunch/

    Eltharion:

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    Grom:

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  8. Danikas Prophet

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    New units.

    5 fucking chariots included :mixedemotions:
     
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  9. Maculo Prophet

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    Imrik has:
    • Anti-large as a footlord (and on horse?).
    • Lord of Dragons: 30 second hex, -24 melee defense and -40 melee attack.
    • Dragon Horn: 16 second map-wide buff, +24 melee attack and units cause fear.
    • Starlance: 29 second self-buff, fire damage, 25% weapon damage, 50% charge bonus, 22% weakness to fire.
    • Dragon mount that gives fire damage, 580 weapons strength, and of course breath attack.
    Starting to think this guy should have been the opposite to Malus, since he seems like a (better) shock-damage lord.
     
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  10. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Here's to the end of Order NATO supremacy.
     
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  11. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    "Expert Charge Defense: All" - This mean that archers will deadstop heavy cavalry? That'll be hilarious.

    Grom's perfect vigor for chariots should be great so long as the chariots themselves are good. Still... the usual issue of 2 out of every 3 battles being sieges and cav/chariots being useless during sieges.

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    Really like how the Rogue Idol and Pump Wagons are specialized anti-heavy infantry. Rogue Idol looks like it will be hilarious, just a mountain belly flopping on entire units. Will probably be tier 5 though.
     
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  12. Maculo Prophet

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    The Greentide will meet the Dawitide on more even grounds now. Also, if I recall correctly, Grom will have access to a Rogue Idol through a campaign item, which should become available relatively early (well, relative to tier 5).
     
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  13. Fedora Master Arcane Patron

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    CA managed to give the orcs a BRAVE AND STUNNING female unit with the river troll hag I see. :smug:
     
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  14. razvedchiki Liturgist

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    until triggered players start complaining in the fora about that difficulty, next patch is ordertide again.
     
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  15. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    i want to believe
     
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  16. Lone Wolf Arcane

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    The mass of the heavy cav will still go right through them, but the charge bonus would be negated, yes. With archer HP pools, though, it barely matters - the h-cav would melt them very quickly in melee. I guess it does buy precious seconds.
     
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  17. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    My understanding is that it's normal charge defense that negates charge bonus. From what I've heard Expert charge defense reflects it somehow.
     
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  18. Lone Wolf Arcane

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    Normal charge defence is against large units. Expert charge defence is against all units. I might be wrong, but I think the deflection stuff is all speculation. In-game, the difference between the two (in terms of what the game tells you) is that expert charge defence = charge defence against all.

    Empire Spearmen - 'When bracing, this unit negates the charge bonus of any large attacker' (Charge Defence)

    Empire Halberdier - 'When bracing, this unit negates the charge bonus of any attacker' (Expert Charge Defence)
     
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  19. Average Manatee Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Charge defense against all is a separate modifier, some units have it. Wouldn't make much sense to have two separate modifiers the do the same thing.
     
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  20. razvedchiki Liturgist

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    use CTT and dont worry anymore about whatthefuck stats.
     
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  21. Lone Wolf Arcane

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    'Charge Defence Against All' is what it says in green on the unit card, but it is provided by Expert Charge Defence.
     
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  22. Maculo Prophet

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    Preview image for Imrik
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    He has special dragons:
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    Frenzy, constant chill aura, regeneration, stalk (on a forest dragon?), etc. He also gives useful bonuses to cavalry...unlike Malus.
     
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  23. ZVERMIX Learned Patron

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    Nice that he is a Free LC lord too. Dragon spam is very strong for HE as it is, you just need life mages to support. Just won a VH campaign with Teclis, gonna try to do my first Legendary HE run with Imrik. I know Tyrion is basically the easiest one for Legendary, but he just seems boring both lore- and gameplaywise.
     
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  24. Maculo Prophet

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    I am tempted to try Imrik first. There is a landmark building near Imrik's start position that buffs dragon princes and allows recruitment at tier 3. Dragon princes as a tier 3 unit seems nice, even though higher difficulties tend to heavily favor ranged units.
     
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  25. Olinser Learned

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    Actually Vampire Coast is by far easiest Legendary I've done, it's a LAUGHABLY easy Legendary run, it's the first one I did for achievement and I was under zero threat the entire game and the final battle was a joke.
     
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