There is such a thing as love--or generally positive human relations--in the witcher, but only between the outcasts of society.
Yes. The whole discussion here is ridiculous, because both the books and the games seamlessly alternate between dark and light-hearted stuff all the time, and how people manage to miss this is beyond me. Arguably one of the strongest suites of the game's writing is its humour. Even Velen, which is specifically designed to be like a bleak, war-ravaged, depressing shithole, has a wide range of different tones, and the game switches between them effortlessly. On the other side of the coin there is Toussaint, which is the polar opposite of Velen: the nicest and least grimdark place on earth, where all knights are noble and all maidens fair (unrealistic medieval stereotypes again, goddammit!). But of course, that too would be a gross oversimpification and a misinterpretation.Witcher is not an edgy grimdark setting. It portrays despair and hope without being biased towards either, which is rarely done well and for that alone I can appreciate it.
Thats good to know pumpkin, now shut the fuck up and let adults speak.I'm bored, and exasperated by the weak attempts at maturity/seriousness.
The well written parts are mostly the ones that have to do with sympathetic assholes and depictions of potato folklore. Has literally nothing to do with that shitshow you probably watch/read.Edgy TV Game of Thrones tier writing held up as a paragon of gaming writing. This is how you know everything is shit.
Jesus, i just read the most retarded thing said on the internet this week. Like what the fuck does this even mean? TV tier? Wheres this tier system? does being TV tier mean that you are better or worse than movie tier, what about theater tier? is there a netflix tier too?He is TV character tier
Jesus, i just read the most retarded thing said on the internet this week. Like what the fuck does this even mean? TV tier? Wheres this tier system? does being TV tier mean that you are better or worse than movie tier, what about theater tier? is there a netflix tier too?He is TV character tier
Fucking christ brother, the retarded criticisms i have to endure reading from edgy codexers that cannot into being honest gets to be too much at times.
None of them are, really. There are individual parts and characters that could be described as that, but their overall mood is still pretty uplifting.Witcher 1 weren't particularly grimdark if thy asks me
Do elaborate.The funny thing is that there's a lot you could criticize about TW3's writing, some major issues regarding the setting, the plot and the characters. You could absolutely nitpick the game apart if you wanted to, and some of that fruit hangs pretty low.
Do elaborate.The funny thing is that there's a lot you could criticize about TW3's writing, some major issues regarding the setting, the plot and the characters. You could absolutely nitpick the game apart if you wanted to, and some of that fruit hangs pretty low.
Again, what the fuck does that even mean?I compared it to game of throne TV tier
So not only are you an ignorant retard, but a lazy one at that.i'm not really interested to sperg out further.
Good for you, want a medal or something?I have tried and given up each of the Witchers about half way at most.
Git gud and its serviceable.I don't see the appeal in dogshit combat
A lot of it is much better than serviceale you tasteless cunt.and serviceable writing
Fair enough, the novelty of it all wore out fast.or having half the quests revolve around following tracks with magical Witcher powers.
Fair enough. Some shit isnt for some people, that stands to reason, absolutely nothing can catter to everyone.I want to like it but i cant
I've discussed this quite a lot in other threads, so I can't be arsed to write an essay about it, so here's a quick rundown of what I think are some of the game's biggest issues relating to its writing:Do elaborate.
I've discussed this quite a lot in other threads, so I can't be arsed to write an essay about it, so here's a quick rundown of what I think are some of the game's biggest issues relating to its writing:Do elaborate.
- the politics have gone through a serious downgrade after TW2
- the main villain is a non-character, as are his sidekicks
- the endgame is full of plot holes; the choices leading to it don't make a whole lot of sense either, and some of them are presented in a rather unclear manner (e.g. the decision on whether or not to let Ciri demolish Avallac'h's lab)
- some of the endings don't make all that much sense; Ciri becomes a witcher, even though she's not a mutant, cannot even drink witcher potions and will age as quickly as normal people, not to mention that it's possible that Emhyr will still be sitting on the throne — it's portrayed as the "good" ending, but it doesn't seem like a very good long-term solution
- Novigrad is full of plot threads and characters that don't really go anywhere and contribute little to the overall story arc
- Novigrad's main quest line is pretty convoluted overall and almost Hommlet-like with its "in order to do A you first need to do B, which requires doing C that is only possible after doing D" structure, plus it's probably the only part of the game where they're struggling a bit to figure out the proper tone for each part of the story
- characters like Caleb Menge or Whoreson Junior have no redeeming qualities about them and end up looking like cartoon villains as a result
- the main quest stops making sense after your first visit to Kaer Morhen; both of the subsequent major battles have major issues relating to them, like the basic logistics of the Kaer Morhen fight (e.g. Roche, Ves and Hjalmar being there despite the fact that Kaer Morhen is a secret location on the other side of the continent) and a number of late-game story elements and McGuffins that are quickly introduced and then instantly forgotten; it feels like they ran out of ideas on what to do with the plot after you finally reunite with Ciri, and the generic epic endgame stuff isn't on the same level with what came before it
- the Crones are ruined when they turn from terrifyingly powerful ancient beings to mere monsters that Ciri can take on all by herself
- Dijkstra similarly starts out as an excellent character that is somewhat ruined later in the game and made to look like a moron
- Roche, Ves and Radovid feel like shallow doppelgangers of their former selves
- there's some terrible fanservice that CDPR added after people complained about the romances not being good enough, but fortunately that's limited to just a few lines of dialogue in the second half of the game
When the writing is good, it is really good indeed. It's just that the main story is its weakest part by far, and in places the writing is a bit inconsistent.
- the politics have gone through a serious downgrade after TW2
- the main villain is a non-character, as are his sidekicks
- the endgame is full of plot holes; the choices leading to it don't make a whole lot of sense either, and some of them are presented in a rather unclear manner (e.g. the decision on whether or not to let Ciri demolish Avallac'h's lab)
- some of the endings don't make all that much sense; Ciri becomes a witcher, even though she's not a mutant, cannot even drink witcher potions and will age as quickly as normal people, not to mention that it's possible that Emhyr will still be sitting on the throne — it's portrayed as the "good" ending, but it doesn't seem like a very good long-term solution
- Novigrad is full of plot threads and characters that don't really go anywhere and contribute little to the overall story arc
- Novigrad's main quest line is pretty convoluted overall and almost Hommlet-like with its "in order to do A you first need to do B, which requires doing C that is only possible after doing D" structure, plus it's probably the only part of the game where they're struggling a bit to figure out the proper tone for each part of the story
- characters like Caleb Menge or Whoreson Junior have no redeeming qualities about them and end up looking like cartoon villains as a result
- the main quest stops making sense after your first visit to Kaer Morhen; both of the subsequent major battles have major issues relating to them, like the basic logistics of the Kaer Morhen fight (e.g. Roche, Ves and Hjalmar being there despite the fact that Kaer Morhen is a secret location on the other side of the continent) and a number of late-game story elements and McGuffins that are quickly introduced and then instantly forgotten; it feels like they ran out of ideas on what to do with the plot after you finally reunite with Ciri, and the generic epic endgame stuff isn't on the same level with what came before it
- the Crones are ruined when they turn from terrifyingly powerful ancient beings to mere monsters that Ciri can take on all by herself
- Dijkstra similarly starts out as an excellent character that is somewhat ruined later in the game and made to look like a moron
- Roche, Ves and Radovid feel like shallow doppelgangers of their former selves
- there's some terrible fanservice that CDPR added after people complained about the romances not being good enough, but fortunately that's limited to just a few lines of dialogue in the second half of the game