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Underrail: The Incline Awakens

Discussion in 'Underrail' started by Blaine, Dec 18, 2015.

  1. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite

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    I'm getting nothing but bad rolls then.

    The controls and enemy movement behavior (at least as far as rathounds go) for this game are an utter mess wrt to real time sneaking. A dedicated stealth game this is not.

    I looked at the perk list and built around the perks. With points left over, I decided to put 9 in both agility and perception because I wanted to both sneak well and hit well and having 10 in one and 8 in the other seemed like there would have been too much of a disadvantage in the other.

    If this is a game where you absolutely have to max out an attribute just to make a viable character then I've overestimated how well the system is put together.
     
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  2. Black Angel Arcane

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    No, look at my edited post above. There will be some circumstances where you can get the full benefits of a silenced weapons, later on in the game. But right now, when the weapons still suck and your skill still suck, is not the time.

    Drop the silenced weapon, get the unmodded one, and wear your armor.

    Actually, now that I think about it, did you play with Classic or Oddity system? In Oddity system, with that high of PER and just walk around checking shelves and boxes, you can get to lv. 2 pretty quickly, raise your Guns and Stealth skill, and get a 3rd perk. Maybe that would help with more stealthy approach.

    Well, a hybrid, let alone a jack-of-all-trades type of character for first playthrough is a no-no. But looking at it, you CAN make a sniper build instead (since a pistolero or spec-ops with SMG is not viable with average DEX), but early on it's important to prioritize what approach you prefer. If you want to shoot, 10 PER. If you want to sneak, 10 AGI. If you want to do both, do it next playthrough after you're familiar with the system.

    However, since you seems like you want to insist using this build, all I can tell you is to drop that silenced weapon and get the unmodded one, and wear your armor. And/or if you're playing on Oddity, check the shelves in the buildings of the first cave-area, since if I'm not mistaken you can immediately get to lvl. 2
     
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  3. toro Arcane

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    I made this retarded pistol build just to check your complaints.

    As you can see above, two rathounds are dead without any scratch on me cause you can kill at least one rathound per turn while start dmg-ing another.

    Edit: Yeah, you are using a retarded pistol.
     
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  4. Lhynn Arcane

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    This game is played with a full build before character creation, or you will suffer.
     
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  5. toro Arcane

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    Look above - you have a build for pistol (PER) and for Stealth (DEX).

    And no, you don't have to go with those retarded stats: 7 or 8 for DEX or PER is enough and then you have plenty of stat points to go around.

    Edit: Use this to build your character - http://underrail.info.tm/

    http://underrail.info.tm/?build=AwGloRhBWEHYaIBwgMzxBWWy5-2SQzY8XMsnSkAJlSA
     
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  6. Lhynn Arcane

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    Underrail threads... underrail screenshots... im starting to shiver, starting to plan a build, fuggg. Hurry up with the god damn dlc already, dont know how much longer i can keep myself from starting over.
     
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  7. Black Angel Arcane

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    Thing is, we didn't know how much CON Roguey actually had, and we also didn't know how much STR his character had so we can't be sure if he can even make a sniper build. On the other hand, it seems like he also only had 6-7 DEX, so a pistolero build is already messed at the start. Either reroll a new character, or just drop the silenced weapon.

    Also Roguey I see you do use the Oddity system. I checked and it's hard to get that 4th oddity to get to level 2 if you're new to the game, so if you want to insist to use this character, drop the silenced weapon and get an unmodded one. Seems like you don't want to use your armor because it slowed you down and reduce dodge/evasion because of the penalty, so I want to know what's the 2nd feat you take aside from Aimed Shot.
     
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  8. toro Arcane

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    Don't tell me. I started the game just to try the build above ... *FUCK* ... I cannot wait for the expansion.
     
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  10. Jarpie Arcane Patron

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    Just a hint guys...obvious troll is obvious.
     
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  11. Sykar Arcane

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    Silenced Weapon? SILENCED WEAPON? And you do no tell me this? Yeah of course your damage sucks ass with silenced weapons their damage is reduced by quite a bit.

    Well I can tell from personal experience that Sniper/PSI hybrid works well for the most part with 10 Wil and 12 Per (or 12 Wil and 10 Per, depending on preference).
     
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  12. Fenix Cipher Vatnik

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    Cave hopper has Oddity that gives 2 exp. ;)
     
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  13. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite

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    This is the gun the weapons guy gave me. You're telling me that because of my build, the game gave me a completely worthless good-for-nothing weapon? This is downgrading my opinion from "I don't like it" to "This is unintuitive garbage full of trap options made by an amateur." Since I can't play with the character concept I wanted to use, I'm not going to play it at all.

    Not that it matters, but suppressive fire.
     
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  14. Sykar Arcane

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    I have never ever gotten a silenced pistol at the start in about 10 playthroughs.
     
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  15. toro Arcane

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    There are two ways to acquire a weapon at the beginning of the game:

    1) Do tutorial

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    2) Ask Lucas for your weapon

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    I tried this shit like 5 times and the original weapon is not randomized therefore YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT!!! :)

    The only way to get a silenced pistol is to trade it with Lucas (or some other merchant) therefore the reality is something like this:
    1) The game did not give you "a worthless good-for-nothing weapon",
    2) The game provides you with at least 2 armors however your character doesn't wear any,
    3) You trade that weapon for a retarded one because you don't know or don't care about what you are doing in the game,
    4) You prefer to whine like a little bitch instead of learning the game's ropes cause in fact you can kill all the rathounds even with that retarded weapon (the game is quite generous with stimpaks).

    Goral is a special type of imbecile but you take home the cake: you gimped your character by trading for a stupid weapon, you are not wearing an armor, you are lying to cover your stupidity, you are not willing to learn or even try.

    What the fuck do you want besides trolling?


    EDIT: FUCK I'M WRONG.
     
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  16. Iluvcheezcake Savant

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    Son of a bitch, when is that god damn patch coming so i can start playing this shit again?
     
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  17. toro Arcane

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    Fuck me. It is possible.
     
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  18. toro Arcane

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    Roguey I apologize. I'm a retard.

    However you are not far from me:
    1) Silenced 5mm Hawker - read the description,
    2) Use a armor - you get one doing the tutorial or simply buy one from Lucas.
     
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  19. an Administrator Self-Ejected

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    There is also one in a locker at your home.
     
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  20. Black Angel Arcane

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    Holy shit.

    Either way, you should've noticed that the weapon did fuck all damage. You should've traded it for something better. Luckily, a modded weapon is much more expensive than an unmodded one, so you could obviously get an even better starting weapon.

    It does. You seem to not wear any armor because of the penalty reducing stealth and dodge/evasion. If you had Nimble, you don't have to worry wearing an armor with <15% penalty. But since you get Suppressive Fire.... well, either you should reroll your character, or get an SMG because that feat is next to useless, especially this early in the game.
     
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  21. Lhynn Arcane

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    All rewards are randomized (this includes the weapon at the start). I remember basically rerunning the start of the game several times till i got a decent armor because i started with a gimp build that couldnt survive otherwise until much later down the road.
    Doesnt really matter tho, Roguey early game threw you a curve ball with a shitty gun, figure it out, or start over. Thats how underrail does.
     
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  22. FeelTheRads Arcane Patron

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    Yeah, yeah, I know, you just couldn't wait to play this so you could troll about it with at least something to back it up. I appreciate the effort, really, but...

    :retarded:

    Good riddance. Go back to Sawyer's comfortable and intuitive arms.

    P.S. This amateur did a better and more balanced game on the first try than a "professional" did in how many already? lul
     
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  23. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite

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    I'm no longer interested in that either. It's Larian and CD Projekt for me from now on.
     
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  24. Fenix Cipher Vatnik

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    Roguey what's your favorite game?

    Play it with beta-patch as I did, it works EXELLENT.
     
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  25. Iluvcheezcake Savant

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    My rpg OCD forbids it :/
     
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