World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs

[Space Nugget]

I keep coming back to this:

https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_Combination_Disciplines_(VTM)

I guess it's safe to assume the game won't be dumbed-down in that area.

 

[Space Nugget]

Imma tell ya: if the dev team of a free-to-play FPS manages to pull off a half-decent RPG, I'll be impressed. And fuck the haters.

 

[Space Nugget]

P.S.: Martin now "tweets" from his new account.

 

[Viata]

Spoiler

Spoiler

You are making me want to play both Vampire the Masquerade storytelling and the computer game. Sadly, only one of them is possible.

 

[deuxhero]

There's always the possibility that the 200 "abilities" include various reputations the player can "earn", possibly with some direct pros/cons (Diablerist: By consuming the soul of an elder vampire you have lowered your generation, however your foul act is visible to any who observes your aura.). NWN and NWN2 and a lot of mods for them did this, largely for engine reasons (journals aren't preserved on export but feats are, so if you gave the PC a feat that does nothing but says they did something or did it in a particular way you can check that if they were imported into part 2.)

 

[Space Nugget]

Haha, managed to find what was on this Lead Animator job opening from February of last year. Here are the interesting bits:

Basic Qualifications

• Experience creating realistic animation for human and non-human characters with an emphasis on acting performance.
• Experience with facial animation and a strong understanding of character emotion and performance.
• Strong interest in Video Games, storytelling, and Movies.
• Brings a cinematic eye to convey emotion, weight, and momentum in gameplay and cinematics.
• Enjoys collaborating with design and art teams to deliver great gameplay and storytelling experiences.
• Experience in developing first-person action games.

There are mentions of "in-engine cinematics", "facial/lip sinc animations", "facial rigging and animation pipeline", and "Unreal Engine 4".

(You can read it in full here)

 

[deuxhero]

Interesting to see this level of graphical detail on non first person. That narrows genre down a lot (it can't be a strategy game ect.).

Third person only?
NWN2 style overhead free cam but special camera in dialog?
"I said it's not a first person shooter, not that it wasn't first person!" type dodge?

 

[Wunderbar]

What if they're developing telltale-style interactive movie

 

[Space Nugget]

Interesting to see this level of graphical detail on non first person. That narrows genre down a lot (it can't be a strategy game ect.).

Third person only?
NWN2 style overhead free cam but special camera in dialog?
"I said it's not a first person shooter, not that it wasn't first person!" type dodge?

It's like the CD Projekt PR/marketing speak: "CP77 is not a first-person shooter; it's a first-person RPG with shooting mechanics!"

 

[Space Nugget]

What if they're developing telltale-style interactive movie

Featuring 200-plus abilities and questlines?

 

[Wunderbar]

What if they're developing telltale-style interactive movie

Featuring 200-plus abilities and questlines?

there was a recent french adventure with rpg elements, The Council i think.

 

[Space Nugget]

Seriously, there's no way IN HELL Brian "Personally, I would love to return to the World of Darkness for a future project" Mitsoda is not involved.

The guy lives in Seattle, DoubleBear Productions is not up to much, his latest wasn't very successful (,and his wife has been busy). It's a FUCKING no-brainer.

 

[Space Nugget]

What if they're developing telltale-style interactive movie

Featuring 200-plus abilities and questlines?

there was a recent french adventure with rpg elements, The Council i think.

That much effort for a Telltale-styled would still be overkill IMO.

 

[santino27]

Interesting to see this level of graphical detail on non first person. That narrows genre down a lot (it can't be a strategy game ect.).

Third person only?
NWN2 style overhead free cam but special camera in dialog?
"I said it's not a first person shooter, not that it wasn't first person!" type dodge?

I'd say the last one.

 

[deuxhero]

You can't say latter with more than two options.

 

[Viata]

You guys are giving me false hope, I don't like this.

 

[fantadomat]

Even if she's putting Attributes, Abilities, Disciplines, etc... under the same umbrella, that's a whole lot.

She must be counting all the different clan's ability.

 

[Space Nugget]

That was all I could find of a prospective Vampire: The Masquerade game. It was fun while it lasted.

Spoiler

The tl;dr version:

The as-yet undisclosed game been developed by Hardsuit Labs on behalf of Paradox Interactive seems to be a single-player/story-driven first-person role-playing game (that's a mouthful). Taking everything we've discussed into account, Brian Mitsoda is IN (probably). I have no idea who's the lead designer, the lead writer, or the lead narrative designer on this project.

 

[Alex]

we need more immersive sim rogue lites

Personally I would prefer more rogue heavies. It has been a while since Cataclysm has been updated.

 

[HarveyBirdman]

It's like the CD Projekt PR/marketing speak: "CP77 is not a first-person shooter; it's a first-person RPG with shooting mechanics!"

Fallout is not a turn-based combat game; it's an isometric RPG with turn-based combat mechanics!

 

[Lacrymas]

The difference is Fallout IS an RPG, while CP2077 is indeed a shooter. A rose by any other name, etc. Too bad the rose is covered in shit this time.

 

[Wesp5]

The difference is Fallout IS an RPG, while CP2077 is indeed a shooter.

How can you know that when the game isn't even out yet?

 

[Lacrymas]

Because we've seen game demos and I have strict definitions.

 

[HarveyBirdman]

Because we've seen game demos and I have strict stupid definitions.

 

[Doma]

Because we've seen game demos and I have strict definitions.

How come CP2077 is a shooter but Deus Ex is an RPG?