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World of Darkness Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines 2 from Hardsuit Labs and Brian Mitsoda - coming March

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by vortex, Feb 11, 2019.

  1. Space Nugget Guest

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    So, what do I got: Hardsuit Labs, a 70-plus employees Seattle-based game studio, developers of Blacklight: Retribution (a free-to-play FPS), is working on... something. If the details found in the job openings are anything to go by, unlike Blacklight, their next game is single-player. Also, it is developed in Unreal Engine 4. They have been silent on what's next for the studio, but accordingly to this tweet (from january 17, and funnily enough the Tender ARG begun two days later), there's "more coming soon" from them... Back in january 2018, Paradox acquired 33% of the studio, and Hardsuit Labs has since been "working on an as-yet unannounced title, to be published by Paradox Interactive in the future".

    (I assume most of these informations aren't news to some of you, but still.)
     
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  2. Jinn Arcane

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    Please don't let the developers of fucking Blacklight: Retribution make the new Vampire The Masquerade game. Please. Please. Please.
     
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  3. Life of the Party Arcane

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    10 days ago:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/Blacklight/comments/aoj8x3/all_good_things_must_come_to_an_end/

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  4. Fluent Arcane Possibly Retarded The Real Fanboy

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    I figured there would be text-only stuff in the form of Tender connections and probably email and texting via your in-game cell phone. This is a good thing, will make for some interesting and unique interactions in the game. Can't wait to lure some sweeties to my lair to turn them into my undead ghoul minions. :)
     
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  5. Space Nugget Guest

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    Somewhat unrelated, but:

    http://gamasutra.com/view/news/3364...change_even_when_youre_new_to_the_culture.php

    Does that means Hardsuit Labs is handling the job (of making a RPG, regardless of its quality)?
     
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  6. vortex Fabulous Optimist

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    Can Paradox hire Arkane studios to make VMTB sequel?
    Is there legal obstruction Paradox working with Zenimax on a game ?
     
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  7. Space Nugget Guest

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    Nope.

    Nope. But we're talking about ZeniMax Media here. The company that made Fallout 76 a thing (and the manner it did). And that's forcing monetization and multiplayer on its own developers.

    Probably the higher-ups reject the idea of working on other people's intelectual properties. That's not very profitable. So... there has to be serious money involved.
     
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  8. Yosharian Cipher

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    FO76 has probably still made/will make tons of money, even with it failing the way it has
     
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  9. Space Nugget Guest

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    That's the point. It's all about the...

    :keepmymoney:

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    My 76th post... how appropriate. +M
     
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  10. Cael Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    Guys, seriously, why are you going on about the quality of a potential Vampire game? Allow me to demonstrate:

    Me: Vampire!
    Fanboi: *SPLOOGE!!!*
     
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  11. ColonelTeacup Liturgist

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    Nothing good can come from a remake. In todays ultra progressive world not only will they butcher the combat further and simplify the dialogue and quests, but they will replace the original iconic soundratcks with bland creations and sjwify the game.
    Imagine damsel turned into a sassy black communist girl actively fighting "trumps america".
     
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  12. HansDampf Prophet

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  13. Wesp5 Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    They didn't tease any of those though, they were just small fishes :)! Also as for text only quests in Bloodlines, I'd bet the poster quest was a late addition to not let some already build items go to waste that otherwise were unused. At least I saw it that way when I added some more ;). And about Arkane studios, no thanks! We'll get ten maps which we'll have to visit over and over with endless respawning enemies! That's not what Bloodlines was about...
     
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  14. Life of the Party Arcane

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    I've been reading a bit about the other WoD settings.

    Wraith: The Oblivion reminds me of Planescape and Charon of The Nameless One.

     
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  15. Jedi Exile Arcane Patron

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    I wonder why people ask for WtM game made by Arkane. It is clear it will be a fun game to play (if you like 'immersive sims'), but not an RPG.
     
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  16. Lacrymas Arcane

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    Bloodlines is also an "immersive sim".
     
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  17. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite Sawyerist Sawyer's Bride No Fun Allowed

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    It doesn't follow the principles, it's too gamey and has a third person camera.
     
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  18. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    if you continue down this path, darkness awaits you
     
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  19. Twiglard Savant

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    "Abstracting", that's what it's called these days? To my horror, I first imagined questgivers with opaque yellow question marks offering a reward for "kill 10 Sabbat members". Abstracting, you say.

    It has a bona-fide atmosphere. That can't be said about all of these cookie-cutter first-person games of today.

    Though the second hub could be less corridor-ish in nature.
     
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  20. Mystic_Quest Educated

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    What do you mean by too gamey? What camera should it have? And what's an example for an immersive sim?
     
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  21. Delterius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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  22. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite Sawyerist Sawyer's Bride No Fun Allowed

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immersive_sim

    Gamey: for example, you can only pick up one kind of each weapon so you can't stockpile knives and sell them all at the store (at least not without frequent backtracking). There are also human bosses with loads of health. Emergent gameplay? What emergent gameplay? The multiple choices/paths/branches through Bloodlines are all determined by the designer. No jumping over that mere locked fence that bars your path in the first hub.

    They must also be first person.
     
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  23. Lacrymas Arcane

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    F/TPS/stealth game, whatever.
     
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  24. Mystic_Quest Educated

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    Hadn't seen that wiki entry before - I am a religious follower of wiki definitions. So, game-y as not realistic enough and not sandbox-y enough, I see. First person doesn't seem to be an absolute requirement according to the entry, but it helps.

    Wtf though:
     
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  25. agentorange Arcane Patron

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    X-Com would qualify as an "immersive sim." It's a nonsense term. The very concept of "immersive" is totally subjective. Someone could feel immersed in playing Mario 64. And what if someone speed runs a game and finds all sorts of ways to get through a level that were not intended by the developer, does that constitute emergent gameplay, even if the game was not built with the intention of providing large amounts of emergent gameplay?

    "Immersive sim" is a nonsense term.
     
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