Wasteland Wasteland 2 Pre-Release Discussion Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

It's a shame when 2 creative geniuses can't see eye to eye.

 

Tim Cain was bragging about the violence in Fallout and when talking about graphics he was talking about awesome exploding child animation. He quit because the management started meddling with the project and was pushing things like the Temple of Trials tutorial which is almost universally hated by players.

 

All his trolling and general silliness aside, this is absolutely right taken out of context like this. See: JA2, Wiz8, X-COM.

 

Temple of trials wasn't a bad idea, it was just poorly implemented.

Now, 'Ghost Town Gunfight' in New Vegas, is sort of a 'Temple of Trials' done correctly; it's completely optional and it's a fun way to ensure that you have some handy starting skills to help you on your way.

 

Must you burst the bubble of hopeful illusions?

 

That is because you are talking about Fallout 1. Fallout 2 doesnt have filler towns.

 

The fucker said that the original wasteland was "full of minigames" (when you use a skill on a tile to achieve some end)... so obviously MDF is a troll. Probably Andhaira again...

 

Problem is, you give them an inch and they'll start asking for a foot.

"ZOMG Y CANT I ROMANCE N CONVINCE HER TO MARRY ME WTF INXILE UNRELAISTIC"

Idiots cannot into perspective. Some tongue-in-cheek dialogues here and there is fine, but it seems a good number of people in there want you to be able to pimp your spouse. Next they'll be asking for restaurants where you can sip wine and talk on an emotional level. The observation that people are actually specifically asking for this shows what kind of game they want as opposed to what kind of game we want.

 

Never entirely discount the possibility of simple stupidity. Still, probably a troll, yeah.

 

Ehehe.

 

I wouldn't mind emotional engagement so much if their precious romance would have as much gameplay challenge as killing someone. Really, you have trouble fighting the rats in fallout 1 or getting past the cave of trials but you are definitely relationship master of the universe?

It's like their brains can't think past 'having this chick fall in love with me after I talk to her three times by clicking on the sexy talk word lines is awesome times for my lonely phallus' and they start pulling out the cognitive dissonance chaff like "better roleplaying means more things to do like girlfriends" and "adding relationships would increase realism and make the world more complex" and "feature inclusiveness" and "rpgs have broadened as a genre".

I say fuck you very much sir, you just want a cheap and manipulative reason to care about the game and applaud the very people who play you for a rube. You are the sort of person who cannot conceive of rooting for that smart prawn in district nine because they don't have tits for you to be emotional about. When you speak of more options you merely mean the option to have what you want because it made your brain shut down to everything else: virtual tits and dick in your face and this means the game is heaven and not some kind of generic factory-line purgatory you paid the recommended 59.90 for.

 

Yeah I sure had fun clearing the wanamingos - I wouldn't want to get into F1 vs F2 argument again, but really, the amount of filler combat is sickening. I rather like Fallout 1 lean content that gives players a clear deadline and some clues where to proceed, but not outright solutions.

 

If they do well in Wasteland 2 as far as balancing out and varying combat situations, landscapes and party tactics not too mention having a wide skill-based arsenal of weaponry to play around with I'm sure "filler combat" would be far less an issue this time around...

 

Oh yeah, that would be just great. "Why doesn't she fall for my charisma of 1 PC? And where's the sexytimes dialogue option?"

 

Promises are great brayko. I'll talk once I see the game.

 

Meh, right now the boards are either populated by inane threads like this one or duplicates of already discussed threads. There's nothing to do but wait for the devs to give some info on the game, so that we can actually discuss something meaningful, rather than "should all skills be useful or just most of them"?

 

Doubt these guys even played the original Wastelands. Like me, I don't play the original and have a 'blank slate'
A lot of these vocal peepz are just messed in the head if they think Wastelands 2 will have great romance, InXile doesn't have David Gaider or Jennifer Hepler level of writing talent to back them up.

 

what does Gaider and Hepler have to do with great romance?

 

When I run directly from the Den to Redding, bypass the usual Modoc-Vault City, my slut was not strong enough and her harem was not big enough, to stand against Wanamingos in the mine. She hightailed out of there screaming like a little girl which she really was. Serve her right for batting over her league. Well, her first clue was how hard to finish the pair under the town's well.

Of course, when you do the usual Den-Modoc-Vault-Redding, or the abortive Redding: Den-Redding-Modoc-VC-Redding-Den(car), you are strong enough, well-equipped, and numerous enough to take on the horde of wanamingos in the town. WHich is as it should be.

 

I demand that a Casanova mutant with multiple dicks eventually visits all your paramours and they break up with you saying that "Sorry *charname*, your dick just can't compare." for a tasteful :forever alone: feeling.

 

I would brofist you if I could, good sir.

One day, it would be amazing if a company made a game that's advertised as featuring Bioware-style romances, but instead of it being "Press Flirt to Win," it's ridiculously complex and full of random variables determining your success with around a 75% base fail rate. Imagine the outcry from the lonely people they market these dating sims to...

 

I like how you can hit on a few companions in FNV but they won't give a shit and return your affection even if you are the right gender. It's like they gave a good satisfying fuck you to all the Biowhores. That game is so awesome on so many levels.

 

Like a Dark Souls dating sim.

 

A pussylicking action game? Where will you use fingers, where to put tongue, etc. If you don't do well enough she just wants to sleep.