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What game are you wasting time on?

Discussion in 'General Gaming' started by Trash, Oct 8, 2010.

  1. unfairlight Self-Ejected

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    I had it at 3, read my second post. I managed to get it at 5 and 6 quality and get a lot out of them, but if I went for a Marine path that focused more on just weapon skills it would have been hell. Actually; it WAS hell, I remember that in my first playthrough where I quit at warehouse in Engineering where I went for weapons skills with little in technical skills.
    But it's a gameplay annoyance more than anything. Spawning a shit ton of shotgun hybrids right behind you who will flick you with -4hp in a second or those spiders with a retarded huge health pool that run at the speed of sound but are incapable of actually doing damage if you just backpedal adds nothing to the game. It just makes it less fun for me to backtrack whenever I have to backtrack and forces me to waste some ammo. It's not a penalty for me for exploring (what the fuck? this is a LGS game, I am SUPPOSED to explore) since I always fully search every room anyway, it's just an annoyance.
    No fucking shit.
    Of course if you take out something that was bad but designed around from the start of development the game is going to be broken and not feel right, the game would need a complete redesign to fix it. It's like Oblivion, if you remove level scaling the game won't really feel right since the game was designed around it, which is why all the mods out there overhaul a lot of the progression in general, not just level scaling to compensate.
     
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  2. flyingjohn Arcane

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    Finishing my ace combat retrospective with ace combat 7.
    A solid bu disappointing game.

    -Graphics
    Game look really nice and runs well on my ancient hardware.Plenty of little details in cockpit view(icing on the glass,buttons and electronic actually working).
    So pretty much best graphics of the series,which is a given considering how new it is.

    -STORY
    It is a worse 5 in terms of story.
    Well complete and utter failure.Now,this game had troubled development and that would explain most of the problems,but the final plot is still amazingly bad.The game tries to tackle multiple themes like drones,war,reliance eon technology in a modern society,yet doesn't deliver anything of value in any of those discussions.
    The plot feels like somebody had a original draft,chopped it in small pieces,glued it together,but forgot most of the pieces.

    The beginning is your typical ace combat plot of another nation invading with a sudden ending. This is probably where the biggest cuts were considering everything moves way too quick without any major plot progress.

    The second part of the game is you flying with a new squad.This one feels the most fleshed out,but it doesn't move the plot quick enough and the over reliance on specific character gimmicks gets old fast.

    The third part is you getting a new squadron that i a combination of the first and second. This is where the game mostly moves the plot and starts discussing its majors themes,but it too late.Most of the stuff mentioned would make amazing missions and interesting plot points,but there just isn't an time left and it is over pretty quickly.
    5 did it better and i mean much better.Even 3 has some sort of coherency compared to this.

    Writing for your wing men are nothing special,in fact it is made worse because you switch wing men so much.You only have 1-2 characters that are with you for most of the game,everybody else just appears later.
    Again,done better in 5,much better.

    Oh and special mention for one of the most obnoxious AWACS operators ever.One is obsessed with food and the other one with solitary,that is their entire personality.
    -Quality of the mission briefing screen
    Pretty damn nice.It has a futuristic feel that fits with it being the most modern ace combat game.

    -Mission variety and gameplay

    4,5,x,hell even zero did it beater.

    Now this doesn't mean that this is a bad campaign in terms of variety.It is just that there are multiple annoyances that all build up to annoy you instead of letting you have fun. These annoyances are:
    -Obnoxious timer that doesn't let you go wild
    -Drones appearing in most missions ,and they are boring to fight.
    -Weather effects just annoying you instead of being anything more.

    Most missions have variety(you have score based,stealth,laser bombing,boss,identifying foe missions,protect,etc) and they even build upon some older ace combat design(low altitude valley mission where you have to dodge search lights fees like mission impossible and is awesome)
    Bu it mostly feels like most of these missions are here because it is the ace combat norm,and not because the designer actually wanted it.
    Could have been the troubled development ,but who knows?

    The game also gives you a couple of vr missions for anybody interested.
    The other major focus is multiplayer.It is badly balanced but it is the quickest way to earn money,which is somewhat annoying.

    Aces are back but,they made the appear only after doing a specif things in a mission.This is annoying and you probably won't even see half of them without using a guide.I have no idea why they did this? Ace combat 4 did it better b hiding them on the map without doing any major things.
    Medals have received no change and there is plenty of them.

    -Planes
    Oh boy,so much sukhoi planes. Plane variety has taken a big hit.There is too much variations on planes that don't need it.I mean how many su-34 and f-15 variation do you even need?Ace combat 5 did it better with the family tree.

    Customization wise,the game has the most customization so far.You get to choose multiple parts,skins,emblems,second weapon.
    Also the game introduces the aircraft and parts tree and it used to unlock new stuff.It gives a somewhat rpg like progression tree.
    But i don't like it. Everything is way too expensive and you can't sell stuff.Coupled with you being forced to spend money on stuff you don't want to unlock the stuff you actually want,it just becomes a huge grind.

    I think that most if not all previous ace combat games did it better.

    --Difficulty
    Mostly the same stuff from 5.Enemy ai is nowhere close to belkan ai. This is for both normal and ace planes.Thy dodge(pretty successfully if you aren't aiming properly),try to hit you with their guns(and fail most of the times) and generally annoy you with missiles.In fact you will probably hear the missiles alert for 2/3 of any mission.
    The drone ai is a little better then average enemy ai,but once you figure it out the never actually improve and you have to fight them a lot.
    Bosses are no real threat and rely on the insane amount of drones shooting missiles at you to actually kill you.
    So,not bad,but nothing special.

    -Unique stuff and extra content
    Typical ace combat stuff.But having the music player as dlc is a insult.

    -Overall verdict
    Ace combat fans should play this game,after all we waited for this for 10 years.But it still is disappointing,it could have been great if they just played it less safe and improved the core formula more.
     
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  3. sullynathan Arcane

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    Beat Devil May Cry V. Best game of 2019 so far.
     
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  4. Unkillable Cat Prestigious Gentleman LEST WE FORGET Patron

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    What really hurt me when playing Thiaf was realizing that the AI hadn't advanced at all since the first Thief game.

    Or maybe it did but they just didn't bother implementing it.

    Either way, Thiaf sucks. Check my sig. *cough*
     
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  5. sullynathan Arcane

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    Play Chaos Theory.
     
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  6. Krivol Liturgist

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    No idea about Thiaf but guards leaving you alone after 5 seconds of alert are quite dissapointing after, say, Dishonored

    Still level design + number of guards make sneaking through this game awesome
     
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  7. BLOBERT Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    BROS I LOVE BOXING GAMES CANT GET AWAY FROM FIGHT NIGJT CHAMPION ON FAGBOX

    STILL GRIMOIRE AND JUST CAUSE 3
     
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  8. MotherMachinae Arcane

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    SW Republic Commando
    Buckload of squad chit-chat, fuckload of bugs and droids, Matrix larpers with dual lightsaber and some Space Hulk action.
    Is it me or one of Deltas is voiced by Half Life scientists?
    Outro started... evacuation, got new orders - "Delta, looks like you're going back to action!"
    ....
    ....
    and then credits starts rolling
    thanks for nothing, I guess, get killed by EA, serves you well kiddin'
    Time for another squad action *PseudoHendrix starts playing*
     
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  9. Swigen Savant

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    Just finished wasting my time on Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky FC. I was all ready to write a giant butthurt post about how boring and shitty the game was and how it just went on and on and on, then I got to the final 2 minutes where the big twist is revealed. I’ve never had my mind changed about how I spent the last 79 hours on a game so quickly before. Feels like I watched a god awful shitty 3 hour movie with my arms crossed making snide comments to my woman the whole time only to reach the end and be like, “damn.... well I gotta see the sequel now”. Hope the second one has more Olivier tho.
     
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  10. Sigourn Arcane

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    I can't be the only one who thinks puzzles in survival horror games are stupid, right? No matter how much you enjoy them, the fact is a lot of times developers don't even bother disguising how retarded said puzzles are as a concept. I'm playing Resident Evil 2 (PS1) at the moment, and there are a few examples of puzzles done well and puzzles done wrong.

    Done wrong:
    1. Move statues around to make a statue drop a gem, because of course every police station is equipped with mechanical puzzles, not to mention our character can't even reach such a gem (oh wait, they can).
    2. Use said gems on a couple statues to obtain another stone to use in a different puzzle.
    Done well:
    1. A helicopter is on flames on the roof of the building and you find a valve in the police headquarters and use it on the water tower on the roof, pushing the pressure to the max so that the water tower bursts open and puts out the fire.
    2. Said helicopter has also crashed into a doorway making it impossible to get through it. You recover C4 and a detonator from the HQ to blast the door open.
    In other words: bad puzzles are gamey, good puzzles are believable because, in the context of the setting, they are simply not puzzles. You are faced with a problem you solve logically. Gamey puzzles on the other hand feel like deliberate stop gaps and are extremely uncreative.
     
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  11. unfairlight Self-Ejected

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    I had a playthrough of Thief Gold left over from late last year where I got to Mage Towers. Booted it up again and finished up that mission, will continue on it now for the second go at the game. I had completely forgotten that to get to the Water tower all you had to do is just open the door. I was looking around for a key to it that didn't exist last time. I overthink things too much.
     
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  12. octavius Prestigious Gentleman Arcane

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    Funny coincidence, I'm playing the Mages Area FM for Thief.

    Hardest FM I've played so far. You start with 1 regular arrows and 3 moss arrows, that's all, not even a compass.
    Lots of haunts, most of them unkillable.

    EDIT: But I can't finish it since it's buggy with NewDark (some trapdoor won't open). :argh:
     
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  13. Seigneur Voland Novice

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    Replaying Dark Souls 3 for the 20th time maybe, because while flawed, this game is still absolutly awesome. Epic bosses !
     
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  14. groke Arcane Patron

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    Codex 2013 Codex 2014 PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Serpent in the Staglands Divinity: Original Sin Torment: Tides of Numenera BattleTech
    Must've been rats.
     
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  15. someone else Arcane Patron

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    The Division 2. Vietnam War museum that you get to fight in, pretty amusing.
    Game kills my old CPU and I cannot turn up the graphics.
    Pls form Codex Clan.
     
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  16. Dedup Savant

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    I was playing Pathfinder: Kingmaker, but then I made the grave mistake of of starting up Might and Magic 7 for the first time. Now, other than a few matches of DOA6 now and then, everything else is dropped. I swear the Might and Magic series is some form of digital crack.
     
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  17. DJOGamer PT Arcane

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    No big surprise what I am playing right now, considering I've been shilling it for the past week.

    I think I'll be able finish it this weekend.
     
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  18. Mechs Delight Educated

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    Trust me, NuThief was completely, unspeakably awful, making even Deadly Shadows (which I didn't care for that much) look like a dazzling bar of gold.
     
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  19. Krivol Liturgist

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    That's why it's not on my list.

    After finishing Dishonored I decided to try al sneaky games I know and never played / played ages ago, so I have those:

    Thief 1 , 2, 3 (I liked it years ago, so why not)
    Dishonored 2 (mixed opinions, 1st was quite fun even if easy and simplistic)
    Styx 1 and 2 (heard it's quite nice)
    Ghost of a tale (that visuals!)

    and few immersive sims that have sneaky way through them

    Deus Ex (played it so long ago...)
    Deus Ex mankind divined (HR finished year ago - it was rather fun energy bars eating sim)
    Dark Messiah of MM (never sunk into that, but hear prise from erverywhere)
    Prey

    Most probably I will get bored after thief 2 , but with my time for playing games it will take 20 years anyway.
     
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  20. oldbonebrown Arbiter

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    I've played around 40 hours of Witcher 3 in the last two weeks, and especially when I've been playing for a while in one go the cutscenes really start to drag. The main quest can be unbearable sometimes with how long they stand around talking about things I don't care about. But I don't really want to skip them either, because I want to participate with what the otherwise rather good game wants me to do.
    Makes me wish I could play as a rock troll who always had the option of killing any conversation by saying things like "No~ Words-a-words many. Hurt head!" or "witcher, wish-a-swosh?" and have the game work around that, so that I felt that I could participate in whats going on in the story on my level.

    My favourite thing in the game is using axii on people in conversations because it makes me feel like I have jedi mind trixXx like Qui Gon and Obi Wan. Something I never before knew I wished for.
     
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  21. Sigourn Arcane

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    After a two week stint with fighting games, which ended up with me dropping about 50 games all at once (let's say tits and ass aren't the best reason to play a game; Chun-Li best girl, though), I decided to go back to a few games. The first one is Resident Evil 2, which I'm still playing, and which I plan to review if I ever get around to playing both characters in a row. The other is Odin Sphere (PS2).

    I've dropped Odin Sphere because the gameplay is fairly repetitive in the worst ways. I don't feel like I'm in control during fighting, and the whole inventory system which forces you to have a handful items at a time proves to be a major, MAJOR annoyance, as you are picking up stuff all the time in this game. The graphics look great at a glance, but fairly quickly they lose their charm when you notice how flat everything is. In my opinion, Paper Mario doesn't look good, and that translates into Odin Sphere as well. It feels more like cutouts (given the backgrounds are a blend of 3D + cutouts, after all) as opposed to a genuine 2D space like Street Fighter.

    So now I'm going to the last PS2 game I have to beat, which is King's Field 4. Perhaps after it I will play Yakuza 2, given I really enjoyed the first title, and I've heard the second improves a good deal on the combat, which was a major source of criticism from me.
     
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  22. Prime Junta Tinker Patron Vatnik

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    Since felipepepe gave it such a glowing recommendation (and it's dirt cheap by now), Millennial Effect: Andromeda.



    Haven't seen anything yet to make me viscerally hate it, other than that one blonde lady's haircut.

    I don't know if it's because I've picked the wrong lines but so far Boy-Ryder seems much more reasonable than I expected.
     
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  23. felipepepe Prestigious Gentleman Codex's Heretic Patron

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    It's not one big dumb thing, is a collection of stupid things that keep pilling up until you give up.

    I'd say it's worth playing until the game opens and you fight an architect. Then just uninstall and see the ending on YouTube. It's not like any choice you make in the game matters anyway.
     
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  24. Prime Junta Tinker Patron Vatnik

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    One thing ME did right (and I haven't given credit for before) is music. It's memorable and quite nicely space-operatic.

    Edit: I do admit that as a middle-aged male I resent that my only use is as a plot device capable of heroic self-sacrifice and then getting TF out of the way so the millennials do their thing. It's a bit too true to life for my blood.
     
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  25. Abu Antar Tweet, tweet Patron

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    Shadorwun: Hong Kong Divinity: Original Sin 2 Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Pathfinder: Kingmaker
    Been playing some King of dragon Pass, but I'm not sure I'll keep on playing. Or in case I do want to play, I'm most likely to search for the classic version of the game.

    I'm also playing Massive Chalice since it was gifted to me on Codex some time ago. I suppose it's a descent game, but a bit simple. I do like the aging mechanic, because you'll think to yourself: That dude/dudette was really useful in a fight. Trying to keep away the corruption or w/e is a good way to keep you on your toes. I don't know how big of an impact decisions make, and I guess that I will never know. I don't plan to do a replay. Some decisions seem to have really bad consequences, though.
     
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