Which game of the new "batch" of tacticools is the best?

Suddenly we got a few of them together. Namely

- XCOM Chimera
- Gears Tactics
- Fort Triumph
- Troubleshooter

I'm in the mood to play one of them but can't decide which one. What is Codex thinking? Which one is the best? Does one of them offer a more significant gaming experience that the others?
(No poll, I'd prefer a discussion)

 

Played Chimera, it's ok when you don't pay attention to writing and all the SJWness. Not a single white male in the game, I really feel excluded. Game is basically a smaller scale XCOM2, with the breach mechanic on top (that gets repetitive quite soon). Research is simplified, and strategical layer is almost non-existent. But I had fun playing it. There's more in https://rpgcodex.net/forums/index.php?threads/xcom-chimera-squad-humans-and-aliens-team-up.132614

Gears Tactics looks too expensive, and is probably xbox pass bait. Will wait for it to drop, or get a month of that pass.

Fort Triumph setting and graphics look off-putting to me.

Troubleshooter looks too weaboo for me.

 

Chimera.
I have not tried it, so can't say anything about it.

Fort Triumph.
It has only 4 classes and overall simpler gameplay, so it's outclassed by every other game in the list.

Gears Tactics.
I have not gotten too far yet, but the combat has a certain puzzle feel to it.
Like you have to find a proper way to "solve" missions perfectly - make sure to keep a grenade for an e-hole here, place an overwatch there - that sort of thing.
And you can only field 4 characters, that's kinda limiting.

Troubleshooter.
The main (only?) real downside of the game is being too anime-like, so monocled players don't even give it a second look.
But sheer amount of different mechanics, character build options and synergies, is far greater than in any other game listed here.
The same goes for map sizes, team sizes, mission varieties.

If I had to rank them by tactical complexity, I'd say Troubleshooter > Gears > Chimera > Fort.

 

I know we have threads for each game but it's hard to tell what's better or not so far.
My impressions are like this:

Chimera: "OK" for what it is, anti-SJW crew is triggered, not much replayability
Gears Tactics: Nice looking, fluid combat, coolness factor is high, but barebones other than that
Fort Triumph: A decent game hidden behind cartoony silliness?
Troubleshooter: If you can tolerate the weaboo stuff, it's maybe the most promising one? Lots of content, good combat and progress? And a "decent" story too?

 

Chimera: I haven't tried it yet, but it seems rather promising as a short spin-off except for the story [and the lack of disposable random characters].
Gear Tactics: I'll be able to give my opinion when it will be down to 15€
Fort Triumph: It's not only the cartoony silliness, if feels "grindy", and collapsing cover on each other feels odd real fast.
Troubleshooter: No idea.

Have you played Mordheim, Warbanners or Stormguard: Darkness is coming?
All were pretty good Battle Brother like games (that did some things better and other worse).

 

Loved Mordheim but I already played it quite a bit and it does become very repetitive after a while.
Warbanners... I can't get past the graphical style. I know, I know graphics whore but something about it just doesnt do it for me
Stormguard was in my radar but I thought it wasnt very good when it released. You liked it?

 

Stormguard lacks variety and polish (I think 99% battles are 4 vs 4 or something like that), but it had quite a few interesting battles (it could be considered similar to Adeptus MEchanicus or a tactical take on Darkest Dungeon: you go through "expeditions" and chain all battles until you win or withdraw, go back to upgrade your base, and select another expedition).
But it may feel repetitive too (it is hard to train extra characters, so you don't get much variety in this department, and almost all battles are 4v4 iirc).
So I'd say it is flawed, but still interesting. That said, if you don't like the look of Warbanners, Stormguard is made with stock unity assets.
Low magic Age is probably better, though (it has a similar dungeons mechanism in adventure mode now.

 

Chimera is pretty neat for a small size game, cheap too. But currently it's very buggy and needs some patches.

Gear tactics is great combat wise, also the hardest of them all. But there is barely anything outside the combat.

 

So no shitty SJW agenda/dialogues? Or brainless (see vanilla NuCom) base building?

The horror

 

Trooubleshooter's Steam page has way more pictures of cute animu girls than something that shows gameplay.
Bizarre.

 

Jimmious have you tried Fell Seal?

 

Ah I am always on the verge of getting this one, there was even a sale recently. I'm slightly concerned by the "very generic story" that people keep talking about

 

Story might be forgettable, but fighting itself is competent enough.
That said I'm waiting for the upcoming expansion before doing full playthrough.

 

So I actually went for Troubleshooter and I will also get Fell Seal, when the DLC comes out.
Troubleshooter is great btw. SO MANY options and stats and abilities, it's crazy. You can get easily overwhelmed initially but when you get a grasp of it, it's great fun.
Also has a decent story.
The issues are weabooness and translation but they are both in a very torelable level for me personally.
I recommend it 100%

 

Fuck, yeah. This thread made aware of this game and is probably the game I enjoyed more playing in a year.

Even if you hate the anime style give it a chance. It's probably one of the better tactics game in years

 

None.

 

Are any of the dlcs for Mordheim good/required or is the base game everything you need ?

 

The base game is all you require. The dlcs only give you a new warband or units. Nice to have but not essential or required, especially in your first playthrough.

 

People enthusiastic about Troubleshooter made me take the plunge. Impressions so far (around 20mins of tutorial):
1. combat system looks quite rich
2. the engrish is strong with this one, and text showing up letter by letter is super fucking annoying
3. playing this makes me feel like watching japanese action cartoons on Polonia 1 when I was a kid

Going to play more and make judgement at 2h whether to get a refund or not.

 

You can instantly get the text by pressing space if I remember correctly (might be other key, I can't try it out now)

 

Urtuk. Play it.

Anyone looking to play Mordheim - I've been playing this shit for a hundred of hours by now - here's the "protip" : play it with a speed hack, it's really a must as the game has no decent speed up option (one could argue that the base speed of the game makes it unplayable).

 

I am Not a Monster was an extremely good surprise, mid way between a puzzle game and a tactical squad game.

https://www.gog.com/game/i_am_not_a...t?pp=cb4e5208b4cd87268b208e49452ed6e89a68e0b8

 

Indeed, to this day, I am still baffled by the number of games that want to force their "ponderous animations that gives a sense of weight" on the player.
Deadwatch 40k is even worse in this regard (and is a game I cannot recommend enough, even though it suffers from massive flaws, on top of the aforementioned animation speed, like WTF were they thinking with the mobile F2P grade loot system?).

 

Gears Tactics is fun so far, I've never even played a Gears of War game but I like this. Fort Triumph isn't really worth it, it's almost entirely about knocking everyone into physics objects and kicking shit over onto people.

 

This looks interesting. Thanks for bringing it up.