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Which has better combat? Deadfire or Origins?

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Safav Hamon, Jul 28, 2018.

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Which has better combat?

  1. Dragon Age: Origins

    40 vote(s)
    45.5%
  2. Pillars of Eternity II: Deadfire

    48 vote(s)
    54.5%
  1. Lilura RPG Codex Dragon Lady

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    Infinitron. I will prominently link to the 'Dex for 2 weeks if you give Safav Hamon a dumbfuck tag, one month if you give him a shitposter tag in addition, and an entire year if you ban him.
     
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  2. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    Not really,the argument is that you are a fucking shill that doesn't know shit about rpgs or a fucking obsidian dev pushing his shit game.
     
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  3. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    NOT THE DUMBFUCK tag,he is clearly retarded!!!! There are a lot better tags that don't get used.
     
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  4. Lilura RPG Codex Dragon Lady

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    Like what?

    Oh, sorry Lacrymas. Yes, and yes to your questions.
     
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  5. Safav Hamon Self-Ejected Village Idiot The Real Fanboy

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    Infinity Engine combat sucked. Baldurs Gate was okay for other reasons, but anyone that believes the combat has aged well is being nolstalgic.
     
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  6. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    I totally don't remember where was the gallery with all the tags,there were some pretty good when i looked them up a year ago.
     
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  7. Lilura RPG Codex Dragon Lady

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    I guess dumbfuck doesn't mean much anymore, since even DarkUnderlord currently has it.
     
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  8. fantadomat Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck Edgy

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    While searching for the tags i found out an old picture of Safav Hamon ,there is some pretty good shit in the kodex kollection.
    [​IMG]
     
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  9. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite Sawyerist Sawyer's Bride No Fun Allowed

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    Sounds like all the D&D computer games. :troll:
     
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  10. imweasel Guest

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    Spoken like a true Sawyerist.
     
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  11. Major_Blackhart Codexia Lord Sodom Patron

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    Meh. I just don't get the need for the continual balance schtick that gets slapped to his name.
    Why not have combinations that don't work effectively or are less conducive to one another? That creates a level of challenge and ensures replay for people who want to try that.
    If you make everything equal, then why would I ever want to redo it?
     
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  12. Lilura RPG Codex Dragon Lady

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    It's all about catering to the newbies/casuals.

    There can be no gimpage and no glorious optimizations.
     
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  13. Major_Blackhart Codexia Lord Sodom Patron

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    If that's the case then they've seriously overstated their own brand name/market value.

    Really, outside of the more dedicated RPG community, nobody gives a flying fuck about them.
     
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  14. Lilura RPG Codex Dragon Lady

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    OTOH, there exist the likes of Beamdog that go way too far. What they did to BG and IWD is contemptible.
     
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  15. Diggfinger Arbiter

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    Combat is for combatfags
    :ziets:
     
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  16. Lilura RPG Codex Dragon Lady

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    An RPG flaunting a great combat system can be forgiven of its sins, no matter how grievous. OTOH, an RPG with a bad combat system, that does everything else right, is unforgiveable; indeed, irrelevant. - Lilura1.
     
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  17. Raghar Arcane

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    How is combat in PoE II different than PoE I? I remember I disabled automatic commands in DA:O, and paused and issued commands manually. For me both of them seemed bad.
     
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  18. Roguey Arcane Sawyerite Sawyerist Sawyer's Bride No Fun Allowed

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    more or less, I suppose some things may have been changed since the backer beta.
     
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  19. almondblight Arcane

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    I mean, "I have never read Thomas Kyd or Ben Jonson but Shakespeare is one of the greatest writers of all time and you're an idiot if you disagree" is the point of view held by about 99% of the people in English speaking countries.
     
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  20. TheSentinel Arcane

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    I liked PoE2 more mechanically but DA:O combat is a lot easier to follow and cleaner because they had mentally functioning gameplay designers.
    So I don't know.
     
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  21. ItsChon Cipher Patron

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    A few good movies, not every single good movie. There is no argument to be bad here.
    Nah mate, that's where you're wrong. I can't speak on the quality of PoE2 as I haven't played it yet, but IE combat is great. It's very snappy and fluid, the way the characters respond to your orders. There are a bunch of different strategies you can use when layering buffs on your team, positioning squishes, kiting out enemies, proper potion use, and the amazing satisfaction you get when you just barely win a tough encounter with all your party alive. It's also over pretty quick, and I strongly prefer 2D games, with their animations n' all, over 3D ones. What don't you like about IE?
     
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  22. DalekFlay Arcane Patron

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    I wish I played PoE2 already to join this argument, but it must be GREATLY improved over PoE1 if anyone expects me to believe it beats BG2 or makes DA:O not even comparable.

    (Psssst: I kind of doubt it.)
     
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  23. Ezeekiel Arbiter

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    It does not beat BG2 for many reasons imo. But it is improved over the first PoE a good bit.
    Don't see how DA:O could ever be mentioned in a positive way when it comes to combat stuff though. It's almost the same as the most boring iteration of then-typical MMO combat.
     
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  24. Safav Hamon Self-Ejected Village Idiot The Real Fanboy

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    Baldurs Gate combat is worse than Deadfire on every single level. Character creation, level progression, itemization, encounter design, artificial intelligence, visual feedback, animations, ect.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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  25. imweasel Guest

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    Frustrated Obsidian employee detected.

    Feargus must have announced that PoE 3 has been cancelled.
     
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