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Which Sherlock Holmes games are worth a play?

Discussion in 'Adventure Gaming' started by v1rus, Jan 28, 2018.

  1. v1rus Arcane

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    Well, the title says all.
     
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    well, the one from Infocom.

    There's also one called Scarlett something? It was a graphical adventure circa... same time as early-mid Sierra games.

    edit: nevermind about Scarlett. Infocom one is Riddle of the Crown Jewels and I had it confused with something else that might not even be Sherlock. And I'm not sure anymore how good it is.

    I remembered everything wrong. But eh, I don't think Lost files of Sherlock Holmes were probably that bad. Although they do have FMV which I can't imagine liking at the time.
     
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  3. Zed Codex Staff Patron

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    Awakening and vs. Jack the Ripper are both great.
    Jack the Ripper is the best one. Walking around in a foggy whitehall is molto bene.
     
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    None of the Frogwares Sherlock games is very good or well-designed. But the only one you need to actively avoid is the first one, Mystery of the Mummy, which is a shovelware Myst clone.
     
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    What's the opinion on Case of Rose Tattoo? I had it in my collection 15 years ago and I remember the Victorian London being gorgeously presented, not much about the story or puzzles.
     
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    I remember reading on Codex that Crime and punishment is pretty gewd. Not much truth in that, eh?
     
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    I never played that one, Serrated Scalpel is a traditional P&C adventure but a pretty good one. I have quite fond memories of it.

    There's the three Consulting Detective games, they're FMV not-very-Interactive Movie types. I know I've played all three but I have fuzzy memories of them. Some of the cases are better than others, none as good as original Doyle's. There's a certain cheese factor that makes the videos quite fun to watch though.
     
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    I think Crime & Punishment's deductions are well made. I liked that aspect of the game. There's not much worthwhile exploration, but I would't compare it to TT games. If you point out the wrong person, it isn't a game over. You have to live with your decision. Voice acting is great and most cases are fun to solve.
     
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  10. Jasede Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    Personally, I liked "The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes", an MS DOS adventure series (?).
    Specifically, "The Case of the Serrated Scalpel"

     
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    Case of the Rose tattoo is a direct sequel to the serrated scalpel. It's slightly inferior, but quite similar in the way that it's easy to get stuck (the world opens a lot of zones in both and never closes them). It's easy to get confused where you're 'supposed' to be when 3 or 4 areas open at once and it's not necessarily obvious you have the right items to succeed only on one area. There are no dead ends in both that i can recall though.

    Compared with a game like for example, qfg, that has multiple areas but also multiple solutions and easy puzzles, it's understandable the new games went full railroad, both because the average audience is dumber and has less patience and this subgenre is more difficult to 'solve' because of the story they're trying to tell is about the 'genius' detective.

    There was also a infocom text game i never played but i heard is vaguely part of the series.

    If you're bored about sherlock, you can try 'murders in venice' and 'murders in space'. You need a good scan of the manual and some other things that came in the box for these ones though (murders in space had 'feelies' to solve puzzles ('the case') and copy protection)-
     
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    Aside from the need to behead you due to being an infidel, I would say that Silver Earring isn't really worth the effort and Persian Carpet is just shovelware as well.

    To me Awakening is still the one closest to heart, in large part due to the fact it's still probably the most authentic adaptation of Lovecraft in gaming while also never straying from Holmes' more scientific reality. Jack the Ripper is the second-best one no doubt, even if I've never been able to enjoy it as fully as I might if I didn't have this mental lock that forces me to compare any Ripper fiction with From Hell, a comparison that is always monumentally unfair and disparaging to those cast under From Hell's shadow. Though I suppose the constraints of historical timeline also kind of take away from twists and turns that could be had.

    In regards to the two latest ones, in a way I think it's kind of a bummer that they focus on multiple individual (generally fun) cases instead of a single big case. Devil's Daughter goes a little too far with endlessly long QTEs tho (though to be fair they are at least not the sort of clunky affair as the chase in Awakened). The globe-trotting adventure in Awakening is quite nice.

    It does add a little extra thinking too which I found stimulating, albeit I did find that the way DD allows you to miss clues to somewhat reduce the soothing stress-relieving nature of the games prior to that (aforementioned really long QTE sections didn't help there either).
     
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    I never bought Devil's Daughter. Denuvo was the first thing that put me off. Then I read impressions, and it sounded like it was a game that I wouldn't really enjoy. I hate QTEs with a passion. Looked up some videos and what I saw also didn't grab me. I even got it in a Bundle but sold the key.
     
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  14. ghostdog Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    The Lost Files of Sherlock Holmes: Case of the Serrated Scalpel and Case of the Rose Tattoo, (DOS) were pretty good.

    I didn't like any of the Frogware games I've tried.
     
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    I 2nd "Awakening" and "vs Jack the Ripper", although I prefer the latter.
    Jack the Ripper has great atmosphere (not that it's bad in Awakening, mind), Awakening had a few annoying pixel hunting sequences which dragged it down for me.
    OTOH the general puzzle difficulty is higher in Awakening.
     
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  16. bddevil Novice

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    Case of the serrated scalpel is really, really good. If you're a sherlock holmes fan and like adventures, it's an absolute must play. Aside from somewhat annoying darts mini game, it's pure non-linear adventure game goodness.

    Case of the rose tattoo is much weaker in comparison and much more linear. It was also made in those days when they were just experimenting with motion capture so animations often are super funky and hilarious (but honestly, who cares ? lol)
    Still a must play if you a sherlock holmes fan.

    Frogwares SH games are love/hate and very hit or miss. Out of the latest offerings, Crime and Punishment was actually enjoyable, but too much handholding ruined it (imo). Devil's Daughter is pure popamole 'cinematic experience' garbage and the Testament lacked identity, ending up in a pretty forgettable game that caters neither to puzzle lovers nor mainstream. And that story devolved into nonsensical shit pretty quickly.
     
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    https://www.filfre.net/2018/10/the-lost-files-of-sherlock-holmes/

     
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