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Why do we like jagged alliance 2 again?

Discussion in 'General RPG Discussion' started by Sheep, Feb 3, 2019.

  1. Sheep Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    The game where you shoot once in a sector and then sit on the spot as all enemies on the map swarm you using human wave tactic and you shoot em one by one. What a great thinking man game.
     
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  2. Blaine Cis-Het Oppressor Patron

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    Grab the Codex by the pussy
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  3. TheSentinel Arcane

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    nobody ever said it was good
     
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  4. frajaq Arbiter

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    We don't like any RPGs around here
     
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  5. Ed123 Arcane Patron

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    Fantastic thread tbh.
     
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  6. vota DC Learned

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    Seems legit. They are armed forces of a banana republic, they are also low cost foreign mercenaries unlike your expensive A.I.M guys.
     
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  7. Sheep Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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  8. Swigen Learned

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    ‘Cause that’s how brown people engage professional mercenaries.

     
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    Cuz it was breddy gud.
     
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    Don't tell him there was a 1st Jagged Alliance, he wouldn't cope with it.
     
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  11. Sheep Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    I thought it started at 2, just like Fallout 3 series started at 4.
     
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  12. Ninefingers Educated Patron

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    Because Lilura tells us to :obviously:.
     
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  13. frajaq Arbiter

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    who the fuck is Lilura
     
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  14. Generic-Giant-Spider Arcane

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    Who is Lilura?

    Lilura runs the most successful, freelance, unmolested, hallowed ground CRPG Renaissance blog on the entire Internet. She is the undisputed, crowned authority on all things Renaissance era CRPG and gets so much traffic to her blog per month that you need to actually book yourself ahead of time when you plan to peruse it. Yeah, you have to book yourself like you're scheduling an appointment. Millions of people flock to it, taking lessons from the Monacle'd Madame herself. College and university professors have tried to get her blog outlawed from being used as a citation because it is too factual and correct that it makes things boring and does not waste enough time for a student.

    But if you don't believe me, just do a quick search and see that RPG Codex's resident dragon lady (Emilia Clarke is just some doughy dingo compared to Her Majesty) is pretty much an Internet celebrity that transcends all barriers. She didn't become e-famous from baring flesh, doing dumb things on the street with a selfie stick or playing videogames, she did it all with the power of fine taste and excellent writing. Eat your heart out, Anne Frank.
     
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    Buttons get removed, retard makes a retarded thread. Coincidence?
     
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  16. Taka-Haradin puolipeikko Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy Bubbles In Memoria
    Now I'm morbidly curious.
    Hope it passes quickly.
     
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  17. DavidBVal 4 Dimension Games Patron Developer

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    PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy
    So now only games with good AI are good. List will get dramatically short... Empty even.
     
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  18. Sheep Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    AI doesn't matter as much as the fact that as long as you are able to get mini 14's early on and then transition to 7,62x51 smoothly you can very easily just cheese the entire game like that. Like on some maps there are enemies who hide in a specific room or something and these actually require you to think, but most of the time it's all about making noise and shooting people who come your way.
     
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  19. DavidBVal 4 Dimension Games Patron Developer

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    PC RPG Website of the Year, 2015 Codex 2016 - The Age of Grimoire Make the Codex Great Again! Grab the Codex by the pussy
    The knowledge on how to get uber-weapons is not at your disposal if you play blind, you are not only cheesing but also meta-gaming a game that you know like the palm of your hand (or a wiki does), then complaining about difficulty.

    Obviously games are balanced against people finding out stuff in-game and by themselves, especially a game from the 90s. If you will use guides to play more efficiently, then challenge will drop. To counter that just forgo your ability to save/reload, insure your mercs, and then come back and tell us the game is trivial.
     
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  20. Sheep Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    There's not much knowledge involved. Mini-14 is pretty much the first rifle you will get and it does 95%(in vanilla, in 1.13 burst fire is more accurate so it'll be 75%) of what you'd expect form 5,56mm or 5,45 rifle, then when you start running into enemies with better armour you'll discover that 5,56 rifles don't do shit and you either KO them with shotguns or transition to 7,62x51. It takes maybe few hours of experimentation to figure it out.
     
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  21. Tse Tse Fly Learned

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    I also noticed that enemies apparently don't come equipped with medkits and/or don't know how to use them, so if an enemy soldier has been hurt enough he will eventually bleed out and die foolishly, and you can just hide round the corner and wait for that to happen. Sometimes they will try to sneak up and get you, but if the wound is severe the bugger will likely retreat and, again, die, not having tried to do anything about the bleeding.
    And why do lone soldiers oftentimes, instead of running away and calling for help, just stay there and try vainly to defeat the spotted group of mercenaries on their own? Don't they see they're armed, don't they realise there may well be more of them? In my walkthrough this has happened not only for regular soldiers, but also 'elite', i.e. most competent and experienced servicemen of Deidranna's army.
    Have the AI issues been addressed by mods?

    Despite some problems, the game is truly amazing, and can be quite challenging if you play on higher difficulties and don't savescum much.
     
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  22. Chippy Augur

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    Dude, I don't wanna destroy your aspirations or anything (and I'm no expert on the subject matter) but Chinese women very rarely, if ever, get involved with men outside of their race. Although you're probably just a great fan - in which case, please carry on.
    :mlady:
     
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  23. IncendiaryDevice Self-Ejected Village Idiot

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    Jagged Alliance 2 is one of the codex approved classics I've never played, nor even researched much about. Whenever it's mentioned in these hallowed halls there's always the issue of it not necessarily being a 'proper' RPG, so I thought I'd take this opportunity to ask: what is RPG about JA2?

    As in why is there some doubt?

    What makes it so vastly different from a team tactics mission game like, say, X-COM, what makes it more RPG than X-COM?

    And, conversely, what makes it so vastly different from a game where no-one disputes its RPG credentials like, say, Fallout, what makes it less RPG than Fallout?
     
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  24. Strange Fellow Arcane Patron

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    You create a character from scratch, choosing his or her stats, skills and perks, which have a crucial impact on that character's capabilities and role within a squad, and improve as you progress through the game. There's also dialogue options, side quests, loot, exploration, funny voice-acting, and some very minor C&C.
    Nothing, really, except that the game is more combat-focused and you don't need to create your own character/you can keep going after the death of the player created character.

    Go play it right nao, it's the best game ever. Seriously.
     
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