Will PoE be shit?

[Shannow]

1. It will be a great game.
   
   
2. It will be a good game.
   
   
3. It'll be ok.

Assuming 'It will be the finest party-based fantasy stealth RPG' is "great, good or ok" in your book. Otherwise I'm sure you'll still find something fitting.

But If you want to start a poll with "Will PE be the worst motorcycle mobile racing game in history" feel free to do so

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[Nael]

This is all so very confusing.

 

[Shaewaroz]

So does someone want to buy my boxed Collector's Edition? I throw play cards in as a bonus. -30% the original price.

 

[MoonlitKnight]

Does "It could have been good, but J.E. Sawyer happened" means the combat is shit?

 

[Rake]

Does "It could have been good, but J.E. Sawyer happened" means the combat is shit?

So far yes

 

[Shannow]

Does "It could have been good, but J.E. Sawyer happened" means the combat is shit?

It means whatever it means to you personally.
To me it was many issues, from the idea to balance all classes around combat to many other decisions concerning classes and progression. But I haven't playe beta so I don't know how bad combat is

 

[buzz]

The real meaning behind the options in the poll:

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[knockupwood]

High density of diverse magic spells + items left the door open for a lot of creative solutions to be discovered. Isn't that the strong point of BG2 along with good encounter design ?
Well, that and Irenicus' awesome voice acting...

But as I understand it, Josh ain't too keen on ye olde BG2 spells - too may hard blocks and save or dies for his tastes. Even the blandest of the bland - the fireball is made blander in his view e.g. no friendly fire. If the game ends up full of different colored fireballs and rays and nothing else people will finally see that the much bashed AD&D wasn't so obsolete after all.

What the hell is a hard block?

 

[Lord Andre]

High density of diverse magic spells + items left the door open for a lot of creative solutions to be discovered. Isn't that the strong point of BG2 along with good encounter design ?
Well, that and Irenicus' awesome voice acting...

But as I understand it, Josh ain't too keen on ye olde BG2 spells - too may hard blocks and save or dies for his tastes. Even the blandest of the bland - the fireball is made blander in his view e.g. no friendly fire. If the game ends up full of different colored fireballs and rays and nothing else people will finally see that the much bashed AD&D wasn't so obsolete after all.

What the hell is a hard block?

an ability/spell that makes you immune to a hostile effect e.g. protection from magical weapons

the opposite would be a soft counter e.g. + 10 armor, 30% resistance to fire etc.

there has been a lot of discussion if this kind of rock/papers/scissors (hard counters) design model is good or bad. I think it's good, Sawyer thinks it's bad. I think it's good because a hard counter may or may not be useful depending on the situation while a soft counter will always be inferior to straight up damage dealing unless the soft counter can be applied for free (pre-buff) in which case the premise of a choice is negated.

 

[Alex]

High density of diverse magic spells + items left the door open for a lot of creative solutions to be discovered. Isn't that the strong point of BG2 along with good encounter design ?
Well, that and Irenicus' awesome voice acting...

But as I understand it, Josh ain't too keen on ye olde BG2 spells - too may hard blocks and save or dies for his tastes. Even the blandest of the bland - the fireball is made blander in his view e.g. no friendly fire. If the game ends up full of different colored fireballs and rays and nothing else people will finally see that the much bashed AD&D wasn't so obsolete after all.

What the hell is a hard block?

 

[VioletShadow]

I'm hoping for the best.

 

[Morality Games]

Is it good yet?

 

[Jaesun]

Define "good".

 

[Morality Games]

Define "good".

Noticeably better than when the rage and despair started.

 

[Ninjerk]

Define "good".

Does "good" = "fun"?

 

[Athelas]

Mods will fix it.

 

[Deleted member 11480]

Well first we have to establish what's an RPG, then we can talk about PoE

 

[Telengard]

No no no. First we must define the method by which we will decide what is an RPG, then we can classify what makes a good RPG, and only THEN can we decide if PoE fits the definition of a good RPG.

 

[Ninjerk]

What is a definition, really, though?

 

[Glaurung]

I think it will be better than Wasteland 2, but not as good as the classical nineties RPGs we all love.

I'm just hoping PoE doesn't do the "guess which skills are actually useful and which sound awesome on paper but have little to no gameplay implementation" thing at character creation, which oldschool RPGs were infamous for - namely more than half of the skill options provided by the game being almost completely useless. If I had to choose, I'd actually prefer a Dragon Age Inquisition-style of castrated skill tree, provided each skill was properly and comprehensively implemented in-game.

What is a definition, really, though?

But first we must ask: what is a question?

 

[RK47]

What is a definition, really, though?

 

[Clockwork Knight]

Will I ever stop reading PoE as Path of Exile?

 

[Ninjerk]

never

 

[ZagorTeNej]

It will be a worthy NWN2 successor.

 

[Roguey]

I'm just hoping PoE doesn't do the "guess which skills are actually useful and which sound awesome on paper but have little to no gameplay implementation" thing at character creation, which oldschool RPGs were infamous for - namely more than half of the skill options provided by the game being almost completely useless. If I had to choose, I'd actually prefer a Dragon Age Inquisition-style of castrated skill tree, provided each skill was properly and comprehensively implemented in-game.

There's not a chance of this ever happening with Josh at the helm. There are five supplementary skills, and while some may end up more beneficial than others, none of them will be outright bad because they all provide some sort of systematic combat bonus.