Elder Scrolls Will the Elder Scrolls 6 have more depth than Morrowind

People that say Beth games can't get worse are setting themselves up for disappointment.
For every good idea Beth has they not only botch it's implementation but also have 5 bad ones.
These are the same people that still can't do ladders in their games and have been using the same engine for almost 20 fucking years now.

 

but will it have better shaders and texture rendering and thus make for better porn mods?

That's the real question

 

Assuming they even make a singleplayer game again, I think Fallout 4 sets expectations appropriately. Worse RPG in most ways, better FPS in most ways.

 

Frankly do you remember Fallout 3 and Fallout 4? Imagine how bad TES 6 could be.

 

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Yes but it cant get worse right we are at rock bottom

 

Cough up some shekels.

 

It's because they don't actually hire writers anymore. They just give the roll to someone who's already on the team and shows the ability to put sentences together and knows enough grammar to not embarrass them

 

After FO 76 anyone should have realized that there are no depths that Bethshit cannot sink to.

 

They already removed attribute stats in Skyrim. I think it is possible to expect them to remove skills for the next Elder Scrolls or make it much less than previous games.

 

At this point they're going to have to only let us pick our characters first name but everything in game will use our already set last name. They're running out of things to take out.

 

Sack Emil and hire Lord Avellone.

 

I just thought up a genius game mechanic guys, backstabs

 

Like actual backstabs in a game where a major guild is focused on being an assasin

 

Make it fashionable to be smart, and even Bethesda games will improve.

Maybe.

 

TES 6 and Starfield will probably be their last single player games. They obviously have aspirations to move to live services/mobile games. I don't think they'll get the same warm reception Oblivion and Skyrim got either. They basically experienced a form of cancel culture over 76 (well deserved) and it's hard to imagine it being overlooked when these games are also buggy, incomplete messes packed with predatory microtransactions. But then it's probably going to be years yet before we see either game so who really knows. People do seem to have very short memories.

 

More depth than Morrowind? No. More depth than Fallout 3, Skyrim and Fallout 4? I don't think that's unreasonable to hope for.

I was pessimistic about Bethesda's future after Skyrim because of the fact that that game received such unanimous praise in the mainstream despite its glaring flaws. If there are lots of flaws in your games, but everyone continues praising you, then why bother trying to improve? But after Fallout 4 and especially 76 were reviewed much more harshly, I have some hope that Bethesda may actually be paying attention to the feedback online and may do some introspection and learn from their mistakes and give players what they want. Fallout 76 was made by a C-team. It was obviously under-budgeted and rushed out the door, so its difficult to say how representative it will be of future games. Then again, if Bethesda listened to their fans Fallout 76 would not exist in the first place, so it may be a fool's hope. Starfield will be the true canary in the gold mine. If its half-decent then there is hope for Bethesda. Elder Scrolls 6 is harder to fuck up than a brand new IP.

I do think its reasonable to be concerned about Bethesda trying to implement aggressive monetization practices in their single-player games in the future, like Assassin's Creed Odyssey did, but we'll have to see. Again, Starfield will be the canary in the gold mine. If Starfield has a micro-transaction store in it then I hope it gets reviewbombed and Bethesda gets torn to shreds so fucking hard over it that higher-ups in Bethesda actually start paying attention.

 

The real question is:

Will Elder Scrolls 6 be limited to only buying mods from the Creative Club?

 

I don't care if ES6 will have depth, because I think it will have creation club for sure. I would agree with those who say that the moment some studio created an MMO and esp. when they borrowed money for it (like Bioware with SWTOR), that was their end, because for some reason the priorities changed. So they follow Bioware path and hoping for what? if Fallout 76 wasn't meant to be what Todd would call a success like Skyrim according to some interview (despite the fact that he was proclaiming the opposite before its launch) and yet still they basically have microtransactions added to both of the latest singleplayer games, do they really think that they will have full control over Elderscrolls 6? It did sound like he doesn't care that much about F76 after all and he is worried about their upcomming big projects. On the other hand - the moment F76 on Steam got good reviews they added one of the most hated features of online games - dailies/weeklies with 100 days to accomplish, its like the moment it is getting better they will stomp it. I was telling myself that F76 has a lot of annoying MMO crap and season pass is still missing, so no surprise there, only that is also comfirmation of a very bad sign behind it. That they don't really care about players having fun.
Seriously is it just players of F76 being naive and hoping for something or is it that their devs are there waiting for something aswell, while being called names and shamed. I just wish they would leave and create their own studio - or is it that risky even with such reputation they gathered before?

 

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As for the game itself, I don't expect returning to either Oblivion or Morrowind, Skyrim sold like hotcakes and at this point given how much resource is being poured at this I believe they are going to play safe. Try to keep the same and add some features whatever.

 

They've already improved, Oblivion was much worse than what came after it. They just haven't improved as much/fast as we'd like.

 

It can always be worse, Bethesda knows their games are shit and that the only saving grace has been the modding community. It's why they're so desperate to keep that hideous Frankenstein of an engine, so they don't alienate modders who are accustomed to it.

If they lose the modders they'll lose everything.

 

Elder Scrolls 6 will literally be Borderlands in a medieval fantasy setting, but without the skill tree.

 

The only two questions anyone ever asks about a Bethesda game: 1) "Can I haz pr0n?" and 2) "How many realism mods can I stuff in there without breaking it?"

I've never finished a Bethesda game MQ. Modding is so much more fascinating (especially with Mod Organizer). Plus, there's something unsettlingly throwaway about the way quests exist in Bethesda games, it's like an analogue of "weightlessness" in animation. The best thing about Bethesda games is the emergent gameplay and landscape visuals when you're just wandering about, and the odd side-quests that have bits of good writing and weird characters. Oh, and the dungeon crawls can sometimes be quite tense.

The thing I've never understood about the complaints re. "dumbing down" - is it really "dumbing down" when most of the "complexity" in the older games is just fake levers that don't really do much?

One plays a Bethseda game for moments of immersion, for a sense of "being there," and to discover awesome buttons in chests; that's about it. The games are great for that (and for the pr0n).