X-COM XCOM 2 + War of the Chosen Expansion Thread

Never thought I'd see the day the Codex cried because a game with adjustable difficulty levels was too hard.

LW2 is amazing. If you don't like some of the things like reinforcement numbers you're an .ini edit away from perfecting your experience.

 

LW1 is good and is pretty much mandatory for me if I would ever play the game again. But LW2 feels like a step forward (randomised maps, finally!), two steps back. Way too many rough edges and fuck-you things that happen without even a chance of countering them (especially on the strategic level), while some things that I liked from the previous game/mod are missing or implemented only half-assed.

 

After I got totally demolished in a Supply Raid mission by aliens way beyond my tech level - I only got basic Laser weapons and no armor and they had Muton Centurions and Heavy MECs - I learned that in 1.3 skipping Supply Raids is how you play now. In their attempt to stop everyone farming Supply Raids in 1.2 and below they went the other way now and made them almost impossible to do.

 

100% infil? and less than 6 advent str in the region?

 

Had 63% and region was 1 str but next one was 5.
In 1.2 I was able to do 0% inf

 

Something's up

 

And we need to wait 4 days for it

 

Would love a standalone expansion with a Terror from the Deep setting.

 

THIRD REBOOT! NOW ALIENS COME TO COEXIST AND THEN ANOTHER ALIENS TO PERSECUTE FIRST ALIENS AND THEN THIRD ALIENS TO PERSECUTE THEM ALL

 

Anyway, should they ditch that cancerous turn timer for every mission, I'd be happy with the expansion.

 

Enemy within style expansion, it's obvious!

 

The real war? I'm getting inception vibes. Are we finally outside the dream? Is the top spinning?

 

Xcom 2 ends by you finding out Elders were preparing to fight someone. I guess now we get to fight that someone. I don't have a clue how it is going to work.

 

Cthulhu, just to clash even more with Phoenix Point.

 

I hope they remove the timers and rebalance the game. Fuck timers.

 

I doubt they make an expansion as a stand alone post vanilla, generally they do mid content with the same campaign

 

What is your problem with timers? They are what make the game tense, and prevent you to wait 4 turns to reload every weapons, or move 1 dude at a time.

I'd rather have the pods removed instead.

 

The timers aren't always bad.
But each mission has them, which is just annoying to play.

Let some missions have them (where it makes sense), and have some without.
And, yeah, definitely remove that pod nonsense.

 

I don't get timers complains in a turn based game, it's not like u have 1 min to end the turn, u can have a 10 turn timer and 4 days of free thinking before it expires lol

 

Actually, I think having them make more sense "lore-wise" would really have helped:
Like triggering as soon as you break concealment, instead of starting while the aliens don't know you are there (I know, "they saw the Skyranger", but then, why are they not active?).
And maybe have them a bit less strict: if the goal was to prevent camping patrols forever, they didn't need to be so short indeed.

 

Timers does not encourage people to "act agressive" it just encourages people to cheese their way. To build their teams on exploiting gme mechanics. The game eventually became NOT FUN. Comapring non-timer and timer X-Com is like comparing Sonic with Super Meat Boy. I can imagine replaying Sonic many times but never SMB. Because one is an easy and fun experience and other is a grinding horror, stressing players for the sake of stressing players. One delivers fun from experience, and other from the feeling of finishing this challenging and mecriles game.

 

Well in real warfare of type they simulated. You are acquiring info to not go into blind, and know map and how to get to the target. You also can create distraction. And typically, you can choose entry point.

They shown some distraction in opening video, but no more planting explosives. No more attacking guards with theirs own riffles by overpowered character. They fucking jumped the shark.

I think worse than timers was enemy power level creep. Blowing up that eye on every mission, before you even seen it in the story mission felt weird.

 

Not just XCOM 2 either, XCOM:EU hinted at this as well.

Certainly seems like this, though, considering the "real war" tagline and the image. But I guess we'll find out in a few days.

 

EW did timer right by making it soft objective. You did not lost squad and campaign immediately by not getting to orange container in time.
Invisible,inc did it right too - you had ticking timer, but when time "ran out" you just had stronger reinforcement dropped and such.