Review Alpha Protocol Review Extravaganza

[DarkUnderlord]

Why would ZeniMax buy Obsidian? I think they'd just quietly pick the good people (which is what, Chris Avellone and Sawyer?) and let the rest slide.

 

[CraigCWB]

Well, I am an RPG fan and it does appeal to me. And it actually does appeal to more RPG fans than console gamers, mostly thanks to well-done choices and consequences bit.

That's becoming quite cliche in my opinion, especially since the vast majority of games that claim to offer "choices and consequences" via interactive dialog are just peddling an illusion.

In any case, these games that have extensive interactive dialogues have far more in common with the old text based Adventure games than they do with traditional RPGs, so I question how that became one of the defining characteristics of the genre. That's rhetorical "questioning" on my part, though. Whatever your explanation might be, it's probably no better than the 2,479 other explanations I've heard in the last dozen years

I like NPCs with lots of personality and extensive interactive dialogs as much as the next guy, but that's not a core game feature. Any game that's built around that as it's one defining characteristic is fatally flawed in my opinion. For example, all of my favorite RPGs offered exploration and challenging combat, detailed character development and most importantly FREE WILL on the part of the player to do what the player wants to do, when the player wants to do it. And as a free bonus to that free will, there is defacto "choice and consequence" in the game world, outside of NPC dialogs, because if you CHOOSE to do something that hoses you up then nobody stops you and you have to deal with the consequences.

 

[Calis]

Ok, so far the reviews are quite horrible. Unfortunately, my order already shipped, so my € 23.50 are gone, GONE!

We'll see.

bro why did you have to pay only 23.50€, this is an OUTRAGE

Play.com usually have good deals on recent PC titles, I ordered Batman Arkham Asylum when it was just out from them as well. I think it has something to do with piracy, that seems to be putting some real pressure on PC game pricing.

Local stores still have the € 45 - 50 price points for new PC releases.

 

[Jaesun]

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/deusex/review.html

 

[ghostdog]

let's post awesome Gspot reviews.

As a PC game it's almost perfect:
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/theelder ... eview.html
But it only touches perfection in the SP3 port:
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/theelde ... eview.html
Key features: "excellent music and hours of good voice acting."


And the best game evar. Absolute perfection in everything:
http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/gran ... eview.html

 

[Grunker]

 

[Donkey Balls]

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/rpg/theelderscrollsivoblivion/review.html
Key features: "excellent music and hours of good voice acting."

 

[relootz]

Ok, so far the reviews are quite horrible. Unfortunately, my order already shipped, so my € 23.50 are gone, GONE!

We'll see.

bro why did you have to pay only 23.50€, this is an OUTRAGE

Play.com usually have good deals on recent PC titles, I ordered Batman Arkham Asylum when it was just out from them as well. I think it has something to do with piracy, that seems to be putting some real pressure on PC game pricing.

Local stores still have the € 45 - 50 price points for new PC releases.

amazon.co.uk is even cheaper. You can buy there too VOD, i do it too...

 

[CraigCWB]

(re Oblivion)
Key features: "excellent music and hours of good voice acting."

Yes, well, Oblivion was a pretty good RPG compared to what came just prior and just after. It seems reviewers like this one are a bit clueless as to what exactly MADE it a good RPG, though. Which probably explains why so many reviewers think (only) RPG fans will like Alpha Protocol. It has lots of good voice acting, doesn't it? As an RPG, it's killer!

I'm no fan of game journalists but why is it some people seem to be complaining when they give what appear to be appropriate review scores to Alpha Protocol? Would anyone feel better if there hadn't been a bribery fail and this game got scores like FO3 did?

Is it a better RPG than Fallout 3? It sounds like a mediocre railed-shooter with a lot of NPC dialog to me. Which is not at all like fallout 3, and not at all like a roleplaying game. If it's not as good an RPG as Fallout 3 then why would anyone expect it to get Fallout 3 reviews? Wouldn't that be journalistic malfeasance of the same sort that saw Deus Ex - reviewed as an RPG - scoring higher than games like Baldur's Gate 2 and Fallout 2?

 

[ghostdog]

Son, wrong forum.

 

[Vaarna_Aarne]

Son, wrong forum.

Oh let's just lynch the bastard already.

 

[Jaesun]

I brought the rope.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

I brought the angry mob.

 

[CraigCWB]

Son, wrong forum.

Yeah, I can kinda tell you are a fan of NPCs with a lot of personality and extensive dialogs.

Your available responses:

1) What?
2) Huh?
3) Shut the hell up
4) Tell me about that

And then depending on what you say I'll link the exact same YouTube video and promise you that you're really contributing to the discussion and making a difference in the computer game industry.

So anyway, what is this forum supposed to be about? How much the game journalists suck even though everyone on this forum exhibits the exact same behavior?

 

[Jaesun]

CraigCWB, can you tell us defines a cRPG?

 

[Clockwork Knight]

So anyway, what is this forum supposed to be about? How much the game journalists suck even though everyone on this forum exhibits the exact same behavior?

ha ha ha...what the fuck?

 

[Gragt]

Can CraigCWB into RPG?

 

[CraigCWB]

Son, wrong forum.

Your available responses:

1) What?
2) Huh?
3) Shut the hell up
4) Tell me about that

Oops! Time is up and you didn't select an answer! So, to increase your immersion I am selecting the default answer of "2) Huh?" on your behalf. Here is your cutscene:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SO5VO2ixWY

Your available response are:

1) Wow! I'm such a badass!
2) See? Now that's what I call ROLEPLAYING, bitches!
3) Yawn
4) (return to previous question)

 

[Sulimo]

Can someone put the troll back in its cage? It'd appear to have escaped somehow. Anyone has fire or acid, just in case?

 

[Jaesun]

 

[racofer]

 

[Murk]

What can define the nature of an RPG?

 

[racofer]

What can define the nature of an RPG?

Around here these days if it has an Obsidian logo stamped on the box that is good enough.

 

[Clockwork Knight]

I miss the times when you had to trick at least one person to be called a troll . Now it's just insta-satisfaction.

this game sux

lols

Imma troll :wink:

 

[Jaesun]

What can define the nature of an RPG?

Around here these days if it has an Obsidian logo stamped on the box that is good enough.

butthurt detected