Choosing between perfect TB and perfect RT in a perfect game

[Excidium]

Can't I have both games, please? I like the two systems a lot, thank you very much.

Well you have to be realistic. We rarely get good turn based or real time combat, what's the chance of getting both? Last time somebody tried we ended up with Arcanum.

He didn't say that he wants them in one game .

True, reading failure on my part.

 

[Norfleet]

Considering he's positing the "perfect" system, I don't think "realistic" falls into it at all. I imagine the "perfect" combat system resembles Dwarf Fortress and is so realistic you could perform surgery on your opponent, the only difference being that if you die in it, you don't actually die in real life.

 

[bhlaab]

RT, because you have to think fast.

TB because I have action games for when I want to think fast.

 

[Wolfus]

TB because I have action games for when I want to think fast.

This.

My most beloved CRPGs have TB combat (Amberstar/Ambermoon/Albion, RoA trilogy...), but in action-based dungeons like Black Crypt or Evil's Doom are perfect with their RT combat.

 

[Johannes]

In singleplayer action games you barely have to think at all though. Ok, same goes for most rpgs but not perfect ones.

 

[DraQ]

In singleplayer action games you barely have to think at all though. Ok, same goes for most rpgs but not perfect ones.

Most action games are not perfect as well.

A well made game should require some brain activity regardless of genre.

 

[villain of the story]

Considering he's positing the "perfect" system, I don't think "realistic" falls into it at all. I imagine the "perfect" combat system resembles Dwarf Fortress and is so realistic you could perform surgery on your opponent, the only difference being that if you die in it, you don't actually die in real life.

If that's what perfect combat system means to you. If you have an idea of how RT combat could be intelligent, tactical and, well, real-time, however unlikely to be made in a game, then that would be the perfect RT combat, again, to you, which is what this thread is all about. Your own choices when you could have it all the way you want.

 

[Damned Registrations]

Its funny DF should be mentioned. Interface and balance issues aside, the way time is handled is pretty much ideal imo. You can go anywhere from ticking along a single turn at a time, to as fast as your computer can churn out frames. And both can be useful depending on the situation (Split second control over a manually trigger trap vs mining out a big cavern or mopping up remnants of an army.) It's more or less how I imagine a perfect system would handle time/turns. About the only thing I'd change is making the granularity of turns finer, so you can tick along a moment of time where something insanely fast moves only a single tile, even though your units need another 50 such ticks before they can move. Moar detail is pretty much always better though, so you could make that argument until your turns are measured in planck time.

 

[turn_based_fanboy]

Obviously (look at my user name ) TB is better.

Altrough i can live with TB+RT mix if it were implemented similarly to Valkyria Chronicles.

 

[nihil]

TB, because without it, the game is one feature further away from a pure RPG (in my view), and thus cannot be the perfect RPG.

As for question 5, Super Metroid is pretty much the best game ever, and would suck with TB combat.