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40 minutes of Skyrimjob at Quakecon

baronjohn

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Trash said:
Why change around a winning formula? Wouldn't want to disappoint your fanbase.
Trash... Trash was different. He understood perfectly, but he just didn't care.
 

DraQ

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Looks moderately shit.

There are two pluses so far - unified control scheme for two of character's hands and perks. I could be charitable and fap over "OMG U CAN BAKE BREAD SALMON", except I'm dead-certain that it'll be just an orphan feature. Perk trees are a nice thing but definitely not an excuse for removal of attributes that formed the core of a character. Use based still makes no sense, exactly like in oblivious due to removal of failure mechanics, spellmaker being pulled is no less retarded with dual wieldable magic than without. 'Readied' spells look needlessly flamboyant - "look everyone, I'm burning my magicka doing what exactly?". 3D item view, could be potentially very cool feature, but it won't be used to any effect except maybe one or two token quests where an item will have informative engraving or something on the bottom which will stop consoletards dead in their tracks. Spell-school relations are often baffling (what do I alter by sensing life or other shit? How is clairvoyance illusion if knowing is the hard part, rather than drawing trail?), menus seem awkward as hell, ok, the map tickled my inner graphicswhore a bit.

Other than that, it's just slightly prettier oblivious with slightly less downscaled mountains.
Combat looks just as awkward and DR-esque finishers don't save it. AI is just as oblivious, you can shoot a guy in front of his fellow, without this fellow noticing. Spells look pretty meh. Dynamic snow (if it's actually dynamic rather than "lol we pre-generated the textures, but we used algorithm to do so, honestly!") is nifty, but purely cosmetic, so where does this leave us?

Ah, one more thing - is this how you look around with a pad?
Jesus. Fucking. Christ. I'd rather take my chances trying to grow a prehensile anus or something, but still play with mouse and board.
:retarded:
 
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DraQ said:
AI is just as oblivious, you can shoot a guy in front of his fellow, without this fellow noticing.

He does notice and takes his weapon out, but he takes too long to get out of the "Oh shit, where did that come from?" phase, which while not being that great I still like better than having enemies instinctively know where I am, making my sneaking skills useful for first strikes only. Todd's character was level 24 or so, maybe it had maxed sneaking or something.
 

sser

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I'll buy it. The crowd was hilariously restless.
 

reaven

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Who cares about anything in the game, everybody just awaits for the modders to add argonian dickgirls, lolis and dragon rape.
 

poetic codex

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Todd still sounded like an excited nerd throughout that presentation which is much better than sounding like a businessman selling his product.

Doesn't seem like he's jaded yet unlike some developer I could name.
 

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I'll admit that the constellations skill screen looks more interesting than its still screenshot indicated but I'm sure it'll get old after seeing it for the 50th time.

But a finer hiking sim we'll not be getting for a long time so I'm sold. :smug:
 

Multi-headed Cow

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poetic codex said:
Todd still sounded like an excited nerd throughout that presentation which is much better than sounding like a businessman selling his product.

Doesn't seem like he's jaded yet unlike some developer I could name.
To be honest I do kinda feel like Todd enjoys what he does. Oblivion and Fallout 3 were full of derp, but I always felt like it was well intentioned derp. Plus I've never heard them bitching about making PC versions of their games, and they always include the toolset so the finest of rape mods can be made. They also (From my half-assed experience) use less marketing doubletalk than Bioware. They try to implement things like "Radiant AI" and sell them, but I couldn't tell you if that was genuine smoke and mirrors or something that they couldn't get working well before launch and neutered.

They do a lot of stupid shit but credit where it's due. :salute:
(feel free to give me a free skyrim steam code for viral marketing the codex, pete. thank you)
 

OuterSpace

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those strafing animations are so painful to watch. This demo reveals nothing about quest design; hopefully radiant Story doesn't make everything generic.
 

Stabwound

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It's easy to see already that the dragons are going to be a major fucking annoyance.

I'll still play it without removing it from an inventory, though.
 

Mastermind

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Ed123 said:
The first dungeon in Oblivion (Ayelid ruin across the lake) was a lot more varied and interesting than most of the other dungeons in the game. I'm sure the rest of Skyrim's dungeons will be total shit.

They only had one guy doing the dungeons in Oblivion :)retarded:). They got more this time.

Also, to the retards bitching about graphics: it's a thousand year old console. The PC master race version is bound to look better.
 

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Ugh. This just reminds me of how much I really want to play a good Elder Scrolls-esque game. This also reminds me of getting suckered into buying Oblivion.
 

Metro

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I'd actually take the jaded developer over the one who really believes the shit he develops is actually good and/or qualifies as an 'RPG.'
 
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Looks boring. They finally outdid themselves by making preoccupied NPCs. It sure took them long. 10 years, 3 games and several expansions and even more DLCs long, to get slightly closer to U6 in that regard, or even the first Gothic game for a more fair comparison (3D & animations).

Sadly, they just cannot into combat. Still as utterly boring and retarded looking as ever.

Oh and they finally figured out environmental shadows! lol.

That little town looked better laid out and designed than anything in Oblivion, btw. Still can't get over just how full of dull generic crap the latter is.

If only they got combat right, just once, just so that I'd get a decent first person sword combat for once, I'd get the game for that alone.

As for the rest here, why exactly will you be buying this pos?
 

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I don't care enough to watch the video but the question that bothers me is: did he climb any ladders during the presentation?

LADDERS!
 

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OldSkoolKamikaze said:
Ugh. This just reminds me of how much I really want to play a good Elder Scrolls-esque game. This also reminds me of getting suckered into buying Oblivion.

install morro/dagger?
 

xemous

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u can tell the quake audience was just being polite none of them are gonna play that shit.
 

xemous

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all elderscrolls games are shit, including morro/dagger
its the huge worlds that suckers people in.
 
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xemous said:
all elderscrolls games are shit, including morro/dagger
its the huge worlds that suckers people in.

No. Both Daggerfall and Morrowind are examplary games in doing several things splendidly, while falling in others miserably. After MW, it's all a nauseating blandness of mediocrity.
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
Konjad said:
Wowm this games looks EXACTLY like oblivion O.o

*Watches video.*
*video looks nothing like Oblivion*

The fu...

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Oh.
 

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