The Risen 2 Thread

[Carlos' Bitch1]

Keep those impressions flowing, particularly on what similarities and changes to Risen 1 you have observed. If everything works out well, I will send a few Zogbucks to the developer and sail the seven seas.

 

[Metro]

Is there an option to disable shadows completely?

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

How does it compare to Risen 1? I've yet to play Risen 1 FFS.

 

[Astral Rag]

Just read an interesting post on the Risen Steam forum:

" For people that don't know yet, there's apparently 3 "Day-1 DLCs" in this game:


1) Treasure Island - Which people would get for Pre-Ordering and which costs ~10€ after, an entire island with extra quests and stuff
2) Pirate Costume - A special armor, boots, hat, gun and ring with giving special stats and XP-Boni etc. (it's included in the Collector's Edition, but can also be bought later)
3) The Temple of Air - Which is apparently exclusive to the "Stahlbarts Schatz" Edition of the game that costs 90€ and people not ordering it that way can apparently only buy "a few weeks later", it's also an entire island with extra quests etc.

Not only that, but according to a german review site most of the stuff seems to have been blatantly cut out of the game:

http://www.pcgames.de/Risen-2-Dark-W...n-Bugs-879112/

Kind of roughly translated:
Quote:
[...]As negative one could assess the way, in which the game puts your nose towards missing already released and future DLC. Missing entries in the list of NPC-companions, that are marked with a question mark indicate further upcoming Mini-Add-Ons. The empty space for the missing legendary item from The Treasure Island-DLC is also shown in the main game and the player finds a letter in a bottle, which presumably has something to do with the upcoming Expansion around The Temple of Air. These loose ends make players feel uncomfortable about missing out on content, without buying the additional DLCs. Annoying! "

http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2671865


No thanks.

 

[Antagonist]

Yeah, first time since Gothic 1 that I don't buy a Piranha Bytes game on release. I have yet to buy a DLC for any game and I will continue this tradition by waiting for a complete edition or skip this title altogether if PB decides to withhold one. This reminds me to order Fallout: New Vegas...

 

[Angthoron]

Is there an option to disable shadows completely?

Yeah. The settings selection isn't too bad at all, though it seems that it's the Speedtree or whatever they're using to show leaves that's bugging - observed it at close distance and it seems that the leaves can keep "morphing" on their own, which looks like a kaleidoscope for a second or so. It's not too bad, but if you're looking at an island from the sea, you might see some "tearing" like shadows and 2D planes were glitching out. No setting seemed to affect it - even forcing settings in NVidia control panel. So yeah, I'm guessing it's either something specific to my system, or a bug that will probably be fixed soon. Either way, still totally playable despite that.

 

[Captain Shrek]

Yeah, first time since Gothic 1 that I don't buy a Piranha Bytes game on release. I have yet to buy a DLC for any game and I will continue this tradition by waiting for a complete edition or skip this title altogether if PB decides to withhold one.

 

[Angthoron]

So yeah, posted a bug report on their forums, and provided some images. If you guys have any idea what this could be, let me know, I can try fiddling with settings.

http://i.imgur.com/pJC9T.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WXpju.jpg

 

[Konjad]

So yeah, posted a bug report on their forums, and provided some images. If you guys have any idea what this could be, let me know, I can try fiddling with settings.

http://i.imgur.com/pJC9T.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WXpju.jpg

Well known bug in ATI GPUs, mainly due to lack of optimization for them (devs made the game for Nvidia, it seems). You could try installing proper drivers for your video card, if you are one of these people who always update them, instead of keeping the most optimized for your GPU. If you actually have old drivers, you could install new ones. To be honest I never got rid of it in Gothic games (Gothic, Gothic 2) on some of the ATI cards, it wasn't very annoying though.

 

[Angthoron]

I'm running on Nvidia beta drivers, so, nope - and they're "recommended" at the moment.

Before that I was running on "current" drivers - same thing.

 

[Konjad]

Well then, I'm confused. Sorry, I can't help you. I've never encountered this thing on Nvidia GPUs.

 

[Angthoron]

Looks like it might be related to Speedtree:

http://forum.deepsilver.com/forum/s...lipping-on-distant-leaves?p=537699#post537699

 

[Kraszu]

The combat is more or less like Risen 1 so far, accidentally messed up and got myself half a health bar drained by sand devils. No health regen, eating restores health fairly slowly. Haven't levelled so far, so it's been down to basic attacks + block, despite being armed with a saber it's more or less like staring out in R1 with whatever you manage to scrounge up.

THis is why we can't have nice things. The combat can't be judge just by just the number of strikes that you can do, in R1 your position, and timing was important in R2 you just bash the attack key untill the animal opponent or you drops dead.

 

[villain of the story]

All I care about is whether or not that "PB" vibe is present. Combat has always been shit their games

Anything ought to feel like shit when you are a shithead. Gothic and Gothic 2 have one of the best combat models in real time RPGs.

 

[Angthoron]

The combat is more or less like Risen 1 so far, accidentally messed up and got myself half a health bar drained by sand devils. No health regen, eating restores health fairly slowly. Haven't levelled so far, so it's been down to basic attacks + block, despite being armed with a saber it's more or less like staring out in R1 with whatever you manage to scrounge up.

THis is why we can't have nice things. The combat can't be judge just by just the number of strikes that you can do, in R1 your position, and timing was important in R2 you just bash the attack key untill the animal opponent or you drops dead.

...Which is why I got totally demolished by the combat trainer NPC who kept spamming counter-attacks, dirty tricks and parries against my feeble blows, and even occasionally cutting through my block.

Admittedly, on the first island so far, I've demolished two piglets and some sand devils with Patty's help, but that doesn't remove the fact that human fights are much harder and the AI actually makes use of skills.

I do hope for wolfpack type of things from Risen 1 though, where the effing things would try to flank/attack from behind, but I've not seen enough to form the opinion, haven't launched the game today yet. (except to take screens for bug report)

 

[Kraszu]

The combat is more or less like Risen 1 so far, accidentally messed up and got myself half a health bar drained by sand devils. No health regen, eating restores health fairly slowly. Haven't levelled so far, so it's been down to basic attacks + block, despite being armed with a saber it's more or less like staring out in R1 with whatever you manage to scrounge up.

THis is why we can't have nice things. The combat can't be judge just by just the number of strikes that you can do, in R1 your position, and timing was important in R2 you just bash the attack key untill the animal opponent or you drops dead.

...Which is why I got totally demolished by the combat trainer NPC who kept spamming counter-attacks, dirty tricks and parries against my feeble blows, and even occasionally cutting through my block.

Admittedly, on the first island so far, I've demolished two piglets and some sand devils with Patty's help, but that doesn't remove the fact that human fights are much harder and the AI actually makes use of skills.

I do hope for wolfpack type of things from Risen 1 though, where the effing things would try to flank/attack from behind, but I've not seen enough to form the opinion, haven't launched the game today yet. (except to take screens for bug report)

Hence I was refering to fights against animals, but I do have a big problem with free camera, it makes movment completly awkard you can't strafe at usable speed.

 

[Jashiin]

All I care about is whether or not that "PB" vibe is present. Combat has always been shit their games

Anything ought to feel like shit when you are a shithead. Gothic and Gothic 2 have one of the best combat models in real time RPGs.

yeah getting ready for another playthrough of g2. been a while. So which should i use for g2. g2 or g1 control style ?

 

[Angthoron]

Haven't had problems with camera myself yet, but I'll keep an eye on how it behaves once I'm back to playing.

 

[Captain Shrek]

All I care about is whether or not that "PB" vibe is present. Combat has always been shit their games

Anything ought to feel like shit when you are a shithead. Gothic and Gothic 2 have one of the best combat models in real time RPGs.

Can you substantiate that, knave?

 

[villain of the story]

I don't need to. You either agree or disagree and in the case you do the latter, you can go back to your typical slasher RPG like Skyrim

 

[Captain Shrek]

I don't need to. You either agree or disagree and in the case you do the latter, you can go back to your typical slasher RPG like Skyrim

DM : MAM

 

[villain of the story]

I said RPG. Not a fantasy shooter. Plus it wasn't that good anyway. Still a wonky slasher with the focus on Fast Adrenaline Packed Visceral (tm) play.

 

[Captain Shrek]

I consider Dark Messiah an RPG and then Compared to Gothic it had a billion times better combat.

 

[villain of the story]

LOL then you're a moron. Look at that crap, FF to 2:40 :



OMG looks almost like Skyrim shit combat and just as poorly animated

R00FLES!

 

[Nattvardsvin]

Combat in Dark Messiah was kind of a clusterfuck. Pretty gimmicky also. At least in my opinion.
Combat in Gothic 1 and 2 worked because of its simplicity. Not to say that it wasn't difficult to master.

 

[Aeschylus]

I wouldn't say combat in Gothic 1 + 2 was particularly difficult to master. Maybe a bit more so in G2 where you had to time your blocks. It had more to do with your character's skill level and equipment than player skill, really.

 

[Nattvardsvin]

Maybe I had more difficulty with it than most others. It was mostly the dodging of attacks and the blocking I had greater trouble with. I've never been good at timing shit in games.