The Codex is separated in two camps:sanibonani said:Being a newb here, i don't fully understand the vehemence directed at this game. I do appreciate, and even share, some of the concerns about the latter day Elderscrolls games. Is the general feeling that this game does meet the criteria for a proper RPG, and so should not be discussed here, or is it just an overdose of hype? If so, further hype is certainly not my intention, but it does seem odd to me that there would not be a fair amount of excitement and speculation about a major RPG release.
I have posted my mixed feelings about Oblivion in another thread, in fact i joined this forum because the general tone seems to be more sceptical and informed, but I don't quite see why it should be construed as foolish to point out the weaknesses in the german 'review' (inherent german wickedness not withstanding).
Those who think Oblivion is not a game and that people who enjoy it should be shot.
That LOD is so nasty it deserves it's own name.
Venom said:Those who admit the game has alot of shortcomings as an RPG and isn't really isn't one but is going to be an amazing adventure game.
Those who think Oblivion is not a game and that people who enjoy it should be shot.
It was?...Temoid said:Graphics was touted as the coming of Christ for Oblivion, so it's fair to expect a masterpiece and bitch when its not.
ANDS! said:LOL. This "critique" especially deserves its own recognition. . .anyone who can honest to god complain about the maximum graphically ability of this game - seriously needs their head fucking checked. Criticism is one thing. Bitching for the sake of bitching is a WHOLE nother world entirely. . .
Irwanday01 said:what I find interesting is:
people that think Oblivion will be awesome based on the pics they have seen from Bethesda's marketing machine are niave.
but people that think oblivion will suck based on pics they got from germans are smart.
both "camps" are doing the exact same thing. Judging from what they have seen in pics, yet the only difference is what pic you believe. I suppose this is all moot since the game will be out in soon, but it is quiet interseting.
and please don't give me the argument that the german pics are more reliable then Bethesda's, because we don't know anything about the germans' machine. Also those pics could have been done by the german verison of the Codex.
Venom said:The Codex is separated in two camps:
Those who admit the game has alot of shortcomings as an RPG and isn't really isn't one but is going to be an amazing adventure game.
Any game that sells this good is amazing. For the people who buy it at least.Twinfalls said:Venom said:The Codex is separated in two camps:
Those who admit the game has alot of shortcomings as an RPG and isn't really isn't one but is going to be an amazing adventure game.
No-one (who doesn't need help) thinks this is going to be an 'amazing' anything. It will be an enjoyable hack/exploration game. It will probably be impressive in many aspects (game world size, quantity of NPCs). As an exploration game it will, however, be lacking in other areas (poor, unoptimised engine, unfinished character models, shithouse physics which are over-used, overall dumbassed FPS trappings). As an RPG it will be lacking in so many serious ways it's not even worth considering.
ESF-ites like you need to somehow be de-programmed from the brainwashing that causes you to automatically use words of extreme hype like 'amazing'.
Perhaps the Codex should operate some kind of half-way house for those of Bethesda's poor little flock who manage to escape, to be rehabilitated before returning to the real world.
Twinfalls said:Venom said:Perhaps the Codex should operate some kind of half-way house for those of Bethesda's poor little flock who manage to escape, to be rehabilitated before returning to the real world.
Twinfalls said:And what's Oblivion 'in it's full glory', Rendelius? Are you saying those ridiculous expanses of texture-free blob that look like something from an early Nintendo 64 game will somehow disappear? For we know the Xbox version will 'feature' those rather prominently.....
Twinfalls said:So 'not having big-assed texture-free zones' = 'photorealism'. Why does every Beth-defender and Codex Critic always argue in false-dichotomy absolutes?
What, prop their little eyeballs open with toothpicks and make them watch tubgirl videos for a week?Twinfalls said:Perhaps the Codex should operate some kind of half-way house for those of Bethesda's poor little flock who manage to escape, to be rehabilitated before returning to the real world.