RPG Codex Top 50 cRPGs - Retards who cannot read and Discussion thread

[skuphundaku]

Wrpgfags are a insecure bunch. 20 years of Jrpg dominance in the video games sure make people butthurt around these parts.

If you're going to troll, you have to at least make it plausible that *some* people could actually believe what you're saying to be the case.

i.e. There has not been a jrpg of note released outside of Japan for a long, long time now.

Then explain the butthurt about Dark Souls. Nevermind that it's not a classic JRPG but a western-style RPG developed by a Japanese team and that it's a better WRPG than most of the WRPGs released during the last 10 years or so.

 

[dnf]

Also Jrpgs don't need to be Kickstarted So much for :monocle: that they need to beg like a bunch of subhumans

 

[Aeschylus]

I didn't say Jrpgs are dominating now, learn2read.

20 years of Jrpg dominance in the video games ...

Learn2write?

Then explain the butthurt about Dark Souls. Nevermind that it's not a classic JRPG...

Why should I never mind when I was specifically talking about jrpgs?

 

[mediocrepoet]

so much butthurt over the IGN list, yet you guys do the same shit like a bunch of amateurs... If you like mmorpgs, just make a top X mmorpgs. Might as well just make a top X best games ever.

It was the only MMO on my list. Besides, I don't recall even seeing the IGN list. I guess I just don't really care what others like all that much unless it's to have a discussion over the merits (or lack of) of a game. I hate a lot of games that many around here enjoy. YMMV.

 

[sser]

To my surprise Icewind Dale didnt make my list....but did include System Shock 2 and Deus Ex and if any poseur has a problem with that fuck them in the ear...and all this retarded bashing of BG2 must be a flashback of Jaesun and all the circle jerk Codex drones of their hischool years, betweem getting wedgies and saying football jocks where inferior to their superior RPG skillz

Bull. People have legitimate problems with the BG series, namely the setting, characters, plot etc.

Combat was alright, but then you play IWD and wonder why the hell would you play BG for the combat; and then you play Planescape and wonder why the hell you'd play BG for the story.

 

[skuphundaku]

Then explain the butthurt about Dark Souls. Nevermind that it's not a classic JRPG...

Why should I never mind when I was specifically talking about jrpgs?

Because this insecurity about JRPG creeped into insecurity about games developed for consoles/games developed in Japan, which is the case with Dark Souls. There is no other explanation for the rabid butthurt some Codexers display when people start mentioning Dark Souls.

 

[Lady_Error]

It would be interesting to add something like "still recommended today" after each cRPG name.
Because i would not recommend to play Dungeon Master, Ultima 4 or Daggerfall nowadays even if they are in my top 25 RPG list.
It will also allow me to pick other people games knowing they could still be very enjoyable.

Dungeon Master holds up pretty well even today. Maybe even better, since it's twitchy as fuck.

I agree, Dungeon Masters holds up pretty well.

I'm also surprised Eye of the Beholder II is not getting more votes. Still one of the best RPGs, at least in terms of atmosphere.

 

[dnf]

I didn't say Jrpgs are dominating now, learn2read.

20 years of Jrpg dominance in the video games ...

Learn2write?

I didn't specifically put the time span of the jrpg dominance my dear faggot. 20 years might been pulled from my butt, but think the time span as 1992-2005 or something...

 

[Murk]

Sorry, this may have been covered but it's been 7 pages already -- were we counting games like The Void in there? It is not a cRPG but I can see the whole character improvement + stats + interaction business in the game. Anyway, if so I'm definitely adding it.

 

[dnf]

There is Pathologic, Outcast, STALKER and others listed so why not?

 

[Grunker]

dis thread

 

[Blaine]

Mikayel: You're allowed to list any game you personally consider to be an RPG, unless Jaesun doesn't like it (or you) for some unspecified reason.

 

[Cassidy]

This is totally stupid and pointless and I'm simply not going to vote on anything.

 

[Gregz]

This is totally stupid and pointless and I'm simply not going to vote on anything.

Chicken.

Many people will benefit from a true RPG list for years, nay, decades to come.

They will look at the ancient records of the internets and see a list agreed upon by those of us who safegaurded the genre...would you ignore such a sacred responsibility Cassidy?

 

[SCO]

Why do people call dark souls a rpg if they don't call symphony of the night one?

 

[MMXI]

Then explain the butthurt about Dark Souls. Nevermind that it's not a classic JRPG but a western-style RPG developed by a Japanese team and that it's a better WRPG than most of the WRPGs released during the last 10 years or so.

How is Dark Souls a western-style RPG? It's nothing like Wizardry, Wasteland, Fallout, Baldur's Gate, Pool of Radiance etc. Single character, action combat. It's an action RPG, a type of game that was quite big in Japan back in the 80s, before it really became a thing over here.

Oh, I forgot. It doesn't have an anime art style. That makes it a western-style RPG.

 

[Mortmal]

Then explain the butthurt about Dark Souls. Nevermind that it's not a classic JRPG but a western-style RPG developed by a Japanese team and that it's a better WRPG than most of the WRPGs released during the last 10 years or so.

How is Dark Souls a western-style RPG? It's nothing like Wizardry, Wasteland, Fallout, Baldur's Gate, Pool of Radiance etc. Single character, action combat. It's an action RPG, a type of game that was quite big in Japan back in the 80s, before it really became a thing over here.

Oh, I forgot. It doesn't have an anime art style. That makes it a western-style RPG.

its more closer to the underworld sub genre, discussions about character builds are pages long on the codex, that definitvely shows there matter to discuss on it. Also unforgiving like the game of old.Its not just about art direction its the whole gameplay thing.

 

[Mortmal]

It would be interesting to add something like "still recommended today" after each cRPG name.
Because i would not recommend to play Dungeon Master, Ultima 4 or Daggerfall nowadays even if they are in my top 25 RPG list.
It will also allow me to pick other people games knowing they could still be very enjoyable.

Dungeon Master holds up pretty well even today. Maybe even better, since it's twitchy as fuck.

I agree, Dungeon Masters holds up pretty well.

I'm also surprised Eye of the Beholder II is not getting more votes. Still one of the best RPGs, at least in terms of atmosphere.

Eye of the beholder are well worth mentioning, but ihe wants 25 titles only , so i chose the first one coming back to mind, but i could easily fill a top 50 list .

 

[Metro]

"As I said, I chalk that up to it being rushed. I don't disagree the combat is horrible. But... since you voted for New Vegas... explain. Might as well vote for Dungeon Siege 3, too."

I voted for BL too despite its shitty combat. And, for the same reasons I did NV. L0L DS3. DS3 is just plain shit. It is garbage. To comapre it to either BL or NV is retarted.

So, name the redeeming features of New Vegas.

 

[skuphundaku]

Then explain the butthurt about Dark Souls. Nevermind that it's not a classic JRPG but a western-style RPG developed by a Japanese team and that it's a better WRPG than most of the WRPGs released during the last 10 years or so.

How is Dark Souls a western-style RPG? It's nothing like Wizardry, Wasteland, Fallout, Baldur's Gate, Pool of Radiance etc. Single character, action combat. It's an action RPG, a type of game that was quite big in Japan back in the 80s, before it really became a thing over here.

Oh, I forgot. It doesn't have an anime art style. That makes it a western-style RPG.

Yeah, single character and action combat. That's not what makes or breaks a RPG. If you want to go back to "What is a RPG?", then be my guest. Dark Souls is an open world action RPG. It's definitely better than almost all the AAA western RPGs released lately (Mass Effect series, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Skyrim) and has better production value than the rest of the recent western RPGs. If you're stuck in the "RPGs need to have a party and be turn based, otherwise they're not RPGs" paradigm, then I'm sorry for you.

 

[Metro]

Oh, and anyone voting WoW... Jesus... maybe if this list were 'Most influential games' but I'm sorry, even if WoW used to have some neat quest lines to call it one of the top 25 RPGs of all time is ludicrous. Then again I saw some votes for Borderlands. El oh fucking el.

 

[Volourn]

L0L Such an obvious troll.

 

[suejak]

Man. Where is that noob who said I was bullshitting when I said modern Codexers think Icewind Dale is one of the best RPGs ever made? I don't remember who he was.

Seriously, everything I say is right. Don't front.

Best ever? No.

What are you talking about? It's in the top 6!

 

[evdk]

So, name the redeeming features of New Vegas.

Quests.

 

[skuphundaku]

Diablo 1
Diablo 2
Diablo 3
World of Warcraft
Dragon Age 2 (Origins was too slow and unresponsive on my game pad)
Mass Effect 2
Mass Effect 3 (didn't like the first one as much...too many guns etc.)
Dungeon Siege 1
Dungeon Siege 2
Dungeon Siege 3
Fallout 3 (this was ok; never played the first 2, but from what I've seen they seem boring and look like shit)
Skyrim (was OK, kinda boring though...no real npc interaction and no romance which is a must for me in an non-action RPG)
SW:TOR (kinda dialogue heavy but I'm a star wars fan...even though I'm not sure how we went from episode 3 to this but w/e)
Guild Wars 2 (free to play and awesome graphics? oh yeeeah!)

Honorable mention Baldur's Gate 2...although I couldn't understand the leveling system, and controlling 4 characters at once is hard as hell, I could tell from the first dungeon that it had a pretty good story. Too bad BioWare was still noobs at rpg and couldn't streamline the gameplay to make it easier for the player to get into.

WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING?