Dragon Age: Inquisition Pre-Release Thread

[toro]

Even if I hate Biowhore, I cannot deny that it looks good. But seeing those characters ... meh.

Edit: They copied Dark Souls and God of War. Or is just my impression? (video: 1:35)

Edit2: The first dragon fight is straight out of Skyrim and Dark Souls.

 

[imweasel]

I don't really know what to think about the gameplay and can't come to a final verdict because they didn't show much, but I am not all too impressed. It seems to have more action than even DA2.

Level design is great, no idea how good the narrative is, consolized inventory is absolute shit, button mashing action is bad (hopefully nightmare difficulty makes it useless), tactical combat looks decent, no level scaling is excellent, no auto healing and scarce healing potions is excellent, xp for combat is excellent...

Hmmm, this game already has more incline than P:E (even with the shit). How ironic.

The game is certainly very beautiful thanks to Frostbite 3.

Err, having better graphics than DA:O and DA2 doesn't mean it's beautiful. And their artstyle got progressively worse. If DA:O was simply bland, and biggest offenders were mages' hats, WoW pauldrons and decolletaged leather armor for females, DA:2 went full retard with almost all armor and clothing. And now we got this:

I don't really like the artisitic style myself, although it is a step up from DA2. But the graphics are very beautiful, it looks amazing actually.

 

[imweasel]

Edit2: The first dragon fight is straight out of Skyrim and Dark Souls.

More like Dragon Age: Origins.

 

[Ninjerk]

Biowhores made a win-win decision - the game is already better than DA2. People will forget that everything is better than DA2 and will praise it as a GREAT EMPROOVMNT!!! But it'll come at the same with as PE, Torment and Witcher 3. So it'll be inevitably compared to them and have to struggle against Torment and PE story and party management\control, Witcher 3 graphics+open world and Dark Souls 2 combat. BW will grab their cash and I suppose the game will be a somehow decent spopamole slasher - you can't lose with such graphics with CoD crowd and retardo fanbase, but in terms of gameplay it could and most probably would be surpassed by competitors..

Few outside sites like this one will notice Torment and P:E.

 

[undecaf]

Judging from the videos, it doesn't look very inspiring. Kinda like Two Worlds meets Witcher 2 meets Oblivion (perhaps even a bit of KoA) in a DA2 coat.

 

[Volourn]

I love how different people can view the same video and then almost every one will factually claim that the game looks like or rips off a hundred different other games. L0L

 

[Trash]

At least they're starting to rip off more interesting franchises nowadays.

 

[undecaf]

Don't know about ripping off, but different perceptions are lovable indeed. We wouldn't want to all be the same, now would we?

 

[Excidium]

Dat lack of impact on melee attacks

 

[RPGMaster]

How come the fire sword isn't setting fire to the wooden shield?

 

[random_encounter]

At 1:55,

Even if I hate Biowhore, I cannot deny that it looks good. But seeing those characters ... meh.

Edit: They copied Dark Souls and God of War. Or is just my impression? (video: 1:35)

Edit2: The first dragon fight is straight out of Skyrim and Dark Souls.

Mortal Kombat at 1:55. "GET OVER HERE!"

 

[Trash]

How come the fire sword isn't setting fire to the wooden shield?

I'm all for criticism when it makes sense but come on. Ever hit a piece of solid wood with a burning piece of wood and have it ignite instantly?

 

[RPGMaster]

How come the fire sword isn't setting fire to the wooden shield?

I'm all for criticism when it makes sense but come on. Ever hit a piece of solid wood with a burning piece of wood and have it ignite instantly?

Not with a magic fire sword I haven't.

 

[Trash]

Who says a magic fire sword sets everything on fire instantly?

 

[Storyfag]

I love how different people can view the same video and then almost every one will factually claim that the game looks like or rips off a hundred different other games. L0L

Not accusing them of ripping off anyone. Merely making the observation that they're finally getting the hang of 2007-tuned Aurora. In 2013

 

[Roguey]

It's a Witcher 2 clone with a rudimentary party control interface attached, just like I said it would be.

What was it that was anything like how The Witcher 2 played?

That "rudimentary party control interface" is how console players have been playing Dragon Age since Origins.

Renderer?

l fucking o fucking l

It has nothing to do with rendering and everything to do with laziness and poor art quality.

Poor art quality of a color?

So I guess it's just a coincidence that the move to Frostbite made them suddenly not-lazy when it comes to this issue.
http://dgaider.tumblr.com/post/46869411797/re-dear-mr-gaider

That’s due in part to the areas we’ve visited so far, in part to the Eclipse engine and its frustrating handling of darker skin tones (now thankfully a thing of the past)

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/371/index/14617823/4

I don't know why black/dark skin looked so wrong in Dragon Age, when the same intended skin tone looks completely normal in Mass Effect.

Because they had completely different engines. Dragon Age was made with Eclipse, and Mass Effect with Unreal. The Eclipse engine couldn't render dark skin very well. The darker the skin, the more it started to look like an overcompressed jpeg with jagged, pixelated lines where gradations of color occurred. We are hopeful that we can have a much wider range of skin colors (particularly darker ones) in Inquisition thanks to Frostbite.

I guess they're both lying and it's a huge conspiracy. Certainly.

Laidlaw never played Torment in his life. His favourite game is Devil May Cry 4.

http://social.bioware.com/ http:/social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/315/index/7484603/3#7488931

Woah woah woahhhh there.

I will not have my love of RPGs called into question without retort. As I type this I am looking at my displayed original boxes of Wasteland, Ultima 4, 5, 6, and 7 and the original Phantasie for the C64.

I like RPGs. I like them a lot. So much so that I will fight tooth and nail to keep party-based mechanics and gameplay viable in todays market, when it would have been infinitely easier for me to move Dragon Age to a single-character RPG or action game.

Now, as to this thread, which I find illuminating, let me quite clear: I am absolutely, positively, all about expanding the audience for party-based RPGs. I am shameless in wanting the entire planet to enjoy a genre I am passionate about. It is not an easy task, and I do not think we made a perfect move to do so in DAII; I have said as much already.

Dat lack of impact on melee attacks

Good thing this is a RPG and not an action game.

 

[Excidium]

Dat lack of impact on melee attacks

Good thing this is a RPG and not an action game.

What difference does it make? It looks stupid as hell either way. Quality Bioware animations taking us to the next gen

 

[Trash]

The utter lack of impacts does look stupid. Especially when they evidently go for a more action packed approach by setting the camera this close to the player.

 

[Roguey]

What difference does it make? It looks stupid as hell either way. Quality Bioware animations taking us to the next gen.

Quality animations are more important when it comes to the quality of action gameplay. Though over 10 million people didn't give a damn when it came to Skyrim. Cause of the arpeegness no doubt.

 

[Excidium]

What difference does it make? It looks stupid as hell either way. Quality Bioware animations taking us to the next gen.

Quality animations are more important when it comes to the quality of action gameplay. Though over 10 million people didn't give a damn when it came to Skyrim. Cause of the arpeegness no doubt.

More like people are used to bethesda animations being lazy. Skyrim was their first game where the characters didn't just moonwalk around while moving in a diagonal direction

 

[Roguey]

What difference does it make? It looks stupid as hell either way. Quality Bioware animations taking us to the next gen.

Quality animations are more important when it comes to the quality of action gameplay. Though over 10 million people didn't give a damn when it came to Skyrim. Cause of the arpeegness no doubt.

More like people are used to bethesda animations being terrible. Skyrim was their first game where the characters didn't just moonwalk around while moving in a diagonal direction

No Bethesda game had ever sold over 10 million copies before, they got a lot of new people.

 

[Excidium]

Almost every single one of their main games were GOTY, it's not like TES got big with Skyrim

 

[Infinitron]

they got a lot of new people.

Actually, with the way the console market works (used games), you can't be sure how many people really played Oblivion.

People play used copy of Oblivion sometime between 2006 and 2011, like it, buy a new copy of the sequel. I'm sure many franchises have slowly built up their buyer base this way.

 

[Roguey]

Almost every single one of their main games were GOTY, it's not like TES got big with Skyrim

It got bigger. Skyrim was $60 retail for over a year. That doesn't happen without consistent sales to justify that price without marking it down.

 

[Stabwound]

Oblivion was very popular, but without even looking at sales figures, you can almost guarantee that Skyrim is insanely popular compared to even Oblivion. You know you have a slam dunk when even teen girls play and get involved in the community of the game.