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What's the deal with Divine and Beyond Divinity?

Sir_Brennus

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Volourn said:
"It is by fare more difficult than JADE EMPIRE"

From what i saw, DD was rather easy. I forgot how many undead I killed; not to mention orcs (IIRC, they wer eorcs) before I shot off the game. I think I killed more enemies in the two palces I visited than I did the entire game of JE, and that was maybe 2 hours of playing.

Then again, I'm sure I'll be told that it gets 'harder' just after I quit. L0L

As I already tried to explain (also to you): If you use all your magic upgrades for your weapons, the beginning of the game can be made quite easy, but the later parts will be more difficult. If you save your magical upgrades till later in the game, then it's difficult in the beginning and gets much easier in the end.
 

mister lamat

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if i save up all my extra men, contra is way easier during the end levels as well.
 

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Volourn said:
Nonsense. The game has poor writing, a horrible combat system reminding me of Lionheart, billions of easy opponents to slaughter at will at the same time, poor role-playing (with very few exemptions), and no heart or soul. Aty leats that's what i saw before I quit the shit fest. I'm sure, as usual, the fanboys will claim that it gets better 5 minutes after I stopped playing. L0L

I don't know any self proclaimed 'real' 'role-player' can even pretend that it's a good role-playing game let alone great. It's a game that only Oblivionites could like.

Says someone who's all time favourite is NWN 1. And he even is a fanboy of it.
 

Volourn

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Yeah, I'm such a fanboy that I rate the OC 75%! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
 

psycojester

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You killed orcs and undead..... so basically what your telling us Volly is that you played the first dungeon, failed, tried to explore the forest and died?
 

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psycojester said:
You killed orcs and undead..... so basically what your telling us Volly is that you played the first dungeon, failed, tried to explore the forest and died?
Yep, seems he met at least one Orc.
 

Volourn

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"You killed orcs and undead..... so basically what your telling us Volly is that you played the first dungeon, failed, tried to explore the forest and died?"

I didn't fail. The game failed. Don't blame me for the game being shit.
 

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It's a rare Gem to find in modern gaming, whether Volourn likes it or not. For $5-10 you are a fucking idiot not to buy it. Seriously, probably one of the best ActionRPGs I've ever played.
 

psycojester

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I didn't fail. The game failed. Don't blame me for the game being shit.

Yeah if only those enemies had been scaled to your level you'd have been fine :roll: We all know its never the gamers fault that he's incompetant
 

Texas Red

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psycojester said:
I didn't fail. The game failed. Don't blame me for the game being shit.

Yeah if only those enemies had been scaled to your level you'd have been fine :roll: We all know its never the gamers fault that he's incompetant

Volourn always tells me to stop lying when I claim that the OC of NWN 1 is rediculously easy.
 

Ladonna

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It is terribly hard to finish the NWN1 OC though. Only managed it once myself.

All the other times my character was lost in the dreaded uninstall.
 

Volourn

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"Yeah if only those enemies had been scaled to your level you'd have been fine We all know its never the gamers fault that he's incompetant"

Except the game is easy. You'd have to be incompetent to find it to be even midly difficult. The game failed at being fun.
 

Ladonna

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How in hells name do you know how easy it is? You only played 2 hours of it, no?

Silly Volly, silly.... :lol:
 

Volourn

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Yeah; but in those two hours or so I slaughtered hundreds of undead and hundreds of orcs. That's nearing the amount of combat you face in all of JE (over 20-30 hours unless you are one of those speed demons who claim to have beaten the game in 1.2 hours, R00fles!).
 

Texas Red

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Volourn said:
Yeah; but in those two hours or so I slaughtered hundreds of undead and hundreds of orcs. That's nearing the amount of combat you face in all of JE (over 20-30 hours unless you are one of those speed demons who claim to have beaten the game in 1.2 hours, R00fles!).

Did you ever thought that perhaps Divine Divinity is in a different genre? Or can you not make a difference from Diablo and KotOR? And from what Ive seen the starting dungeons are always easier than what later the game can offer, no?
 

Volourn

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"Did you ever thought that perhaps Divine Divinity is in a different genre? Or can you not make a difference from Diablo and KotOR?"

Last i checked, DD is supposedly an Action RPG (as someone pointed out earlier). It's trying to be a RPG with real time combat - just like JE. Dumbass.

Also, how difficult a game is or isn't is irrlevant to what genre it is. A game is eitehr easy,hard, challenging, or average difficulty.


" And from what Ive seen the starting dungeons are always easier than what later the game can offer, no?"

Nope. Not always. Sure, enemies are usually stronger than earlier dungeon enemies; but that doesn't neccessarily make them harder for the player/character since the character will likely be stronger in the last dungeon then they were in the first. So, in essence, it evens out.
 

AZ

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Volly, you are wrong - the first part of the game is easy, but if you don't plan ahead your charter, it will be very challenging. And I don't think it is a good concept, because I couldn't finish the game because stupid decision I made thinking that like in Diablo it would be extremely hard to fuck up character building.
 

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