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Scruffy

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I must be a rare creature indeed if you instantly assume that pretty much anyone—yourself included—who's assigned to GD must be expected to abuse their permissions in order to push their agenda. A person with their head screwed on straight should be able to read things they disagree with without turning into a meddling little child.
In fairness, this is the Codex, so you really can't blame her for having that impression. Think about what the past few mods who "don't give a shit" have done.

I recall that the first thing Scruffy did when he became in charge of Politics was to move all the threads he personally didn't like into a subforum no one could access and teased us about it like a school bully playing keep away.

You don't get much more petty than that.

"I recall"
then proceeds to describe something that never happened
it must be so easy to live in the world of narratives that only enforce your retardation bubble

carry on, simpletons
It never happened? What never happened? Are you saying you and @Crispy(?) didn't make a restricted subforum and move threads into it?
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I must be a rare creature indeed if you instantly assume that pretty much anyone—yourself included—who's assigned to GD must be expected to abuse their permissions in order to push their agenda. A person with their head screwed on straight should be able to read things they disagree with without turning into a meddling little child.
In fairness, this is the Codex, so you really can't blame her for having that impression. Think about what the past few mods who "don't give a shit" have done.

I recall that the first thing Scruffy did when he became in charge of Politics was to move all the threads he personally didn't like into a subforum no one could access and teased us about it like a school bully playing keep away.

You don't get much more petty than that.

"I recall"
then proceeds to describe something that never happened
it must be so easy to live in the world of narratives that only enforce your retardation bubble

carry on, simpletons
It never happened? What never happened? Are you saying you and @Crispy(?) didn't make a restricted subforum and move threads into it?
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Well, then either you're not TheFedoraBot and I have you confused with some other codex jailbird, or you're a liar? Really don't care either way.
 
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Blaine

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"I recall"
then proceeds to describe something that never happened
it must be so easy to live in the world of narratives that only enforce your retardation bubble

carry on, simpletons

What you definitely DID do was change the title of the Trump megathread multiple times to suit your liking in a very partisan way, not terribly dissimilar to the time that Reddit admin was so furious after the election that he spent hours surreptitiously editing a bunch of posts in the Trump-dedicated subreddit.

I don't necessarily disapprove of pranks, but you are quite clearly highly emotional and definitively mad about the current political state of affairs. The amount of effort you put into pretending not to be just makes it all the more obvious. When it comes to politics, you've never laughed anything off, you never laugh at yourself, you never de-stress, and you never relax your posture.

You're serious, and you were taking our your impotent frustrations using the tiny amount of power you have on a little corner of the Internet.
 

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What you definitely DID do was change the title of the Trump megathread multiple times

I changed it three times total, twice because easily triggered faggots like you were crying and it was fun to see. Then the babies crying became boring and I changed it back.

to suit your liking in a very partisan way, not terribly dissimilar to the time that Reddit admin was so furious after the election that he spent hours surreptitiously editing a bunch of posts in the Trump-dedicated subreddit.

So changing Donald to Dotard when that was in the news is the same as changing a bunch of posts etc etc. ok

I don't necessarily disapprove of pranks,

If your team plays them, right?

but you are quite clearly highly emotional and definitively mad about the current political state of affairs.

uh? I'm not a US citizen, I don't care that much, and I get to laugh at americans believing the snake oil salesman, how is that being...

The amount of effort you put into pretending not to be just makes it all the more obvious. When it comes to politics, you've never laughed anything off, you never laugh at yourself, you never de-stress, and you never relax your posture.

You're serious, and you were taking our your impotent frustrations using the tiny amount of power you have on a little corner of the Internet.

oh, so if i say yes, i am emotional about this, then i am, and if i say no, i am not, i still am. I guess you have it all figured it out.

In the real world, meanwhile, I changed back the title when special snowflake faggots like you started crying and then forgot about it. You, on the other hand, are opening these threads. I wonder who's emotionally invested in a subforum on a website about videogames.
 

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Really don't care either way.
of course you don't, now that you realized how easily everyone can see that you're full of shit
No, I don't care because it happened ages ago. But it is the truth. Are you getting forgetful in your old age or just don't want to own up to your own childish antics after the fact?
 

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Well, I don't know about anyone else, but that post dissection has ME convinced.

Scruffy was plenty active in the Trump megathread until the results were in, which is why he's in prison. Now, of course, he doesn't care at all. How silly of anyone to think otherwise. I mean, come on! He's not even American.

In any event, this thread has run its course. Perhaps one day, possibly by sheer accident, someone who actually does their job occasionally rather than only using the forum UI to take out their frustrations will appear on staff with GD permissions.
 

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Really don't care either way.
of course you don't, now that you realized how easily everyone can see that you're full of shit
No, I don't care because it happened ages ago. But it is the truth. Are you getting forgetful in your old age or just don't want to own up to your own childish antics after the fact?

* mods cannot create subfora
* there was never any thread in that subforum that no one could access, it was just there and it would show up some random number to make it seem like there were threads in it
* of course feel free to point at ONE thread that was moved to that subforum with no threads in it

you're just some butthurt manchild who cries when someone says something about MUH TRIBE, please keep going, it's like watching a dancing monkey
 

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Well, I don't know about anyone else, but that post dissection has ME convinced.

Scruffy was plenty active in the Trump megathread until the results were in, which is why he's in prison. Now, of course, he doesn't care at all. How silly of anyone to think otherwise. I mean, come on! He's not even American.

In any event, this thread has run its course. Perhaps one day, possibly by sheer accident, someone who actually does their job occasionally rather than only using the forum UI to take out their frustrations will appear on staff with GD permissions.

I am "in prison" because calling a con man a con man apparently means you support Clinton in the head of the simple minded. Of course, feel free to find a thread where I support Clinton. What I have been saying all along was that you don't solve the problem of radicalized lefties who come up with pronouns and retarded shit like "microaggressions" and "trigger warning" by putting a con man in power. I'm sure that in your alternate reality things are different though.
 

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Look

They didn't have forums when I was a kid so I only know the rules found on "Terms and Rules" on the bottom right.

I know also rules found on other forums, most of those are around racism, personal attacks on other members of the forum, anti-semitism, and other sorts of deviant behavior frowned everywhere in the world apart from on this forum.

Blaine has me on ignore so I don't know how he sees my post. He says I am 'flooding', some sort of forum crime worse than those mentioned above. I am happy to note this is a community and there is no point pissing everyone off. So, I will try and "Think of the children" like Blaine who get easily offended.

I did have a look to see how many times I was 'flooding' and I posted four times in a row in the Donald Trump thread on page 3081.

Funnily enough Markec posted four times in a row on page 3078 and again on page 3077. Did you complain about that Blaine?

I can only conclude it's the content of my posts Blaine is objecting to, basically he is trying to ban my views.

Maybe he is feeling a bit raw since today the cops caught three of Trump's men and stuck them in jail. Maybe he should take a rest from it for a few days.

Yeah, this is a RPG forum first, the best I ever seen. The knowledge found here is incredible.

But also good discussions on broad topics. I even take note of the views of others and take that on board. I found Lionel Nation, Ben Shapiro and just today janjetina informed me about conservativereview.com. These are sites I would never find on my own as I am more left communist than on the right.

In science, if you come up a theory the next thing you are supposed to do is try and debunk it. On this forum it seems a lot of people are in echo chambers and don't want to read different views and opinions.

Apparently American politics is like that, very polarised. It seems this forum is a good example of that too.

Already, the ability to rate posts has been taken away from me so I can't even brofist some helpful posts all over this forum.

And now Blaine (and maybe some others) want to ban me from posting on the Trump Discussion thread (let's add oneself too they said).

Last time I looked it wasn't a Trump Love Fest thread. So either change the name so I know or remember a discussion means seeing opposing views.

Otherwise apply some forum rules to everyone equally, not just to those you disagree with.

But out of care to the kiddies on the forum that get their feeling hurt I will try and be more considerate.
 

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of course Blaine won't complain about that, what people in MUH TRIBE do is always right, everyone else who's not in MUH TRIBE is always wrong, what are you, naive or something?
 

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* mods cannot create subfora
I know. That's why I said someone else was involved. Whoever created that subforum. You were (or it looked like you were) just moving the threads there.

I know you don't have the power to make subforms etc. You had to whine to an admin to ban me when I was making more threads.
* there was never any thread in that subforum that no one could access, it was just there and it would show up some random number to make it seem like there were threads in it
I guess that they were deleted then? How does that make a difference?

I'm not a mod. I wasn't privy to the inner workings of your childish troll/tantrum.

But it's funny how it's going from "it never happened" to "actually I was trolling you a different way and it just looked like that I'm so clever, lel herp".
* of course feel free to point at ONE thread that was moved to that subforum with no threads in it
Yeah, I'll just point out those deleted or whatever threads from over a year ago. K.

you're just some butthurt manchild who cries when someone says something about MUH TRIBE, please keep going, it's like watching a dancing monkey
le_centrist_meme.jpg :roll:
 
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Politics used to be ok because there were people from both sides, putting some effort into their shitposting when arguing with each other.

Now the originality and humor is gone and it is just newfag neckbeard-shitlord-tier alt-righters sucking each other off and an occasional leftist spam-bot. Sad!

I created a thread where I was shit flinging with Codex Communists for 20 pages. The Codex has huge diversity of opinion even in politics, it just becomes an echo chamber because even the Communists, Atheists, Christians, etc, all hate SJW bullshit.
 

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Have to agree with Lambchop and Blaine. Spam ruins discussion. No one on either side wants to discuss things when they're constantly being spammed with crap. It just stifles and ruins discussion. It's bait, you can ignore it, but it still has an effect when spammed. Lord Azlan is obviously copy pasting a bunch of posts as well. They're not his opinions. Oneself is just a butthurt retard who spams stupid shit to try and get a rise out of people, but it's just obvious he's still butthurt about Trump winning the election. So he takes it out on everyone else. Politics brings out the worst in people, but here it's generally a better place to discuss than most other forums I've seen.

On the subject of liberals posting there. They are free to post. They use to post quite a bit during the US Presidential election, but many of their predictions and thoughts ended up being wrong. They also would post some fake news from a mainstream source and that would quickly be debunked. If you want an example think about this Trump/Russia collusion story. One year of propaganda from the news. Every article is some vague connection between a billionaire's global empire and Russia. Every article they're so close to connecting Trump to Russia and proving he colluded. One year of this over and over and nothing.

Liberals didn't leave the forum because it was some echo chamber or so all the right wing tards could be contained. They left because they lost over and over and over again. They got their asses kicked every day and they couldn't take it anymore. They're woefully misinformed by the media. As soon as the narrative they've been fed by the media falls apart they lose and flee until the next news article comes out. It amazes me how smug and dismissive liberals can be when they've been proven wrong over and over again. I guess that's just how the mind copes with loss.

Edit: See look at Snorkack he's one of those liberals. Still butthurt.
 
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Lord Azlan and Scruffy , that multiple repost shit is annoying, but it's not like a once in a while thing it's constant, and I'm pretty sure I've got nobody on ignore so my tolerance is high.

I prefer oneself and his trolling/shitposting, atleast it doesn't clog up half a page. Can't you just space it out a bit, or pick the juicier article but give a little more of your view/analysis/summary to encourage more interaction?
 

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Liberals didn't leave the forum because it was some echo chamber or so all the right wing tards could be contained. They left because they lost over and over and over again. They got their asses kicked every day and they couldn't take it anymore. They're woefully misinformed by the media. As soon as the narrative they've been fed by the media falls apart they lose and flee until the next news article comes out. It amazes me how smug and dismissive liberals can be when they've been proven wrong over and over again. I guess that's just how the mind copes with loss.

Edit: See look at Snorkack he's one of those liberals. Still butthurt.

I actually have to agree with this to an extent. When I started out here I was quite liberal, I was arguably a proto SJW and didn't even know it since I'm a little older and the term didn't exist.

The Achilles heel I had was that I was still from a generation that believed in free speech and debate (rather than go into denial I was able to accept when someone had the better argument). Frankly the only area where Codex politics is a hivemind is in it's rejection of progressive politics/values and being pro free speech.

If a person thinks Codex politics is a hivemind it's because those topics are likely how they define themselves politically, which is myopic.

Think of the Codex politics division on these topics, Communism vs Capitalism, National Socialists vs just about everyone else, Religious vs Atheist, Russophiles vs Eastern Europeans, Trump supporters who were high on Trump vs those who were just low on Hillary, Authoritarian vs Direct Democracy, Gay vs Anti-gay, pro-Israel vs Anti-Israel, black pill vs red pill vs blue pill, etc, with a lot of nuance in between.
 

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Politics subforum is an echo chamber already, making an alt-righter mod would just worsen it even more. Because unlike the "I don't give a shit" mods that are installed currently, an alt-rightist would actively censor differing opinions. Well, also GD and pol is absolute shit so who cares lmao.

Yes Scrooge, it's definitely right-wingers who live in an echo chamber and actively censor differing opinions.

Did you miss the entire NeoGAF thread? It had (emphasis on past tense) 10x the Codex's traffic, was full of left-wingers, and... well:

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Alt-righters and sjws are completely the same when it comes to trying to censor different opinions. And both live in echochambers. That's why they are called echochambers.

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Have to agree with Lambchop and Blaine. Spam ruins discussion. No one on either side wants to discuss things when they're constantly being spammed with crap. It just stifles and ruins discussion. It's bait, you can ignore it, but it still has an effect when spammed. Lord Azlan is obviously copy pasting a bunch of posts as well. They're not his opinions. Oneself is just a butthurt retard who spams stupid shit to try and get a rise out of people, but it's just obvious he's still butthurt about Trump winning the election. So he takes it out on everyone else. Politics brings out the worst in people, but here it's generally a better place to discuss than most other forums I've seen.

On the subject of liberals posting there. They are free to post. They use to post quite a bit during the US Presidential election, but many of their predictions and thoughts ended up being wrong. They also would post some fake news from a mainstream source and that would quickly be debunked. If you want an example think about this Trump/Russia collusion story. One year of propaganda from the news. Every article is some vague connection between a billionaire's global empire and Russia. Every article they're so close to connecting Trump to Russia and proving he colluded. One year of this over and over and nothing.

Liberals didn't leave the forum because it was some echo chamber or so all the right wing tards could be contained. They left because they lost over and over and over again. They got their asses kicked every day and they couldn't take it anymore. They're woefully misinformed by the media. As soon as the narrative they've been fed by the media falls apart they lose and flee until the next news article comes out. It amazes me how smug and dismissive liberals can be when they've been proven wrong over and over again. I guess that's just how the mind copes with loss.

Edit: See look at Snorkack he's one of those liberals. Still butthurt.
The left didn't 'lose over and over again' here. In fact this is happening: Over the past couple years, for every single smart conservative on this board, like the Westerns or VonAchdorfs, you get a dozen Grimlorns and Ellefs whose posting abilities start and end with endless regurgiation of the same old 4chan memes. If you ever manage to conceive a genuine own opinion that goes beyond yelling words like 'cuck', 'rapefugees', 'killary', 'fake news' like some verbal kneejerk reflex, you might get an actual discussion. Until then, it's not worth any effort beyond spam and bad ratings.
 

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You're so full of shit. Most of the discussion in Politics isn't even like that. I only used fake news to describe news that was untrue in my post and later debunked. Fake news was started by the left anyways. Yelling? Who's yelling? Do you imagine when you read some post on the internet like this that people are yelling? That's on you, not me. I'm calm and collected even when I'm calling someone a cunt.

You're just proving my point about being smug and arrogant as well. You're using 4chan memes and buzz words to dismiss having a discussion and rationalize why you don't engage in discussion, because we're idiots that are beneath you in YOUR mind. But a quick look at politics and you'll realize that you're full of shit because it isn't currently like that, but keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. Truth is you can't handle people challenging you. See the left attacking free speech throughout Western society for citation.
 

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I like how this discussion is a microcosm of leftist arguments in general:

Blaine posts a complaint with screenshot evidence etc.

Then Lefties immediately start making excuses and pointing the finger at "the alt-right" (which is Richard Spencer's gay group and I doubt any of us are a part of that).

Tears over muh 4chan memes and how oppressed Codex liberals are ensue.

It's not their fault that they are spamming, it's our fault for not being intelligent enough to seduce a rational argument out of them. :lol:

Reminds me of BLM arguments.

"Azlan dindu nuffin. Respected member of da community. It's your fault for oppressing him until he had no choice but to rob a convenience store to pay for a pair of fubus spam that Trump thread...only to be gunned down reported in his prime by a filthy cop alt-right codexer."
 

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I don't really see a problem with politics subforum moderation. Scrotum is a retarded beaner-wannabe smegma-licking piece of shit, no arguments there, but he hasn't overstepped his bounds as a moderator other than the time he, in his endless butthurt, changed the Trump thread title (then quickly changed it back). That's nothing to raise a ruckus over, really, that's the kind of thing DU would do for shits and giggles.

As for Azlan, he is an annoying faggot too, but what he's doing is not really against the rules, since his spam is on-topic. The Ignore function works as intended for rampant chain-spammers like him.
 

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Yeah what's funny about Scruffy aka idonthavetimeforthiscrap is he's an idiot. He's a liberal atheistard who can't debate religious people or conservatives without looking like a retard. He then tries "trolling" them by screwing with religious threads or renaming the Trump thread. When DU trolls, he does it rarely and randomly and it's generally funny. He doesn't screw with ideological opponents who kicked his ass in a debate/argument like Scruffy does. Scruffy just reveals how butthurt he is every time he does that. It's pathetic.
 

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