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Two Point Hospital - Theme Hospital spiritual successor

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https://www.pcgamer.com/two-point-hospital-is-hilarious-until-the-corpses-start-piling-up/

Two Point Hospital is hilarious, at least until the corpses start piling up
Laughter is the best medicine, but managing these mini people is no joke.

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Deadly diseases haven't been this much fun since that cute little monkey in the movie Outbreak. The more you see of Theme Hospital's spiritual successor Two Point Hospital, the more you crave its particular mix of the comically absurd and the fiendishly satisfying. My latest hands-on featured the first four levels of the game's campaign, and gave me a sense of how the difficulty can ramp up from 'maybe I should have been the United States Secretary of Health' to 'where's the option to buy a morgue'?

The first level of the medical simulation, set in the town of Hogsport, eases you in. Not too many weird diseases, plenty of cash and time to worry about the feng shui of your reception desk. Sure, some people might die, but it’s nothing that hiring yourself a janitor with a ghostbusting skill—because in Two Point Hospital the dead tend to linger, scaring other patients—can’t keep under control.

To pass each level and progress on to the next hospital you only need one star, but perfectionists can push for the big three. In an act of generosity, once you’ve left a level you can always go back, so you don’t have to go to your grave stressing about how you didn’t quite manage a full score for Lower Bullocks. There’s also regular award ceremonies, rewarding you with cash for being the ‘Rising Star’ or not killing anyone.

Each of the four levels peels back another layer of Two Point’s onion of complexity, so the next stop, Lower Bullocks, is a village afflicted with a delusional disorder that leads people to think they’re rock stars. Now, while you're dealing with diseases like Lightheadedness or patients with saucepans for heads (requiring treatment in a Pan’s Lab), you need to build up a robust team of psychiatrists. Not all doctors have that qualification, so there are soon queues, angry patients, and you’re stretching finances to buy more buildings for your growing disaster hospital. It’s a tough lesson in human resources, albeit one featuring people people with light bulbs for heads.

As well as the standard in-game currency for hiring staff, buying buildings and getting paid, there’s a second called kudosh that you can earn for completing different challenges. This is basically fun money that you can spend on things like fancy paintings and cosmetic items (like a skeleton model) and useful furnishings like a Sega arcade machine to keep patients entertained or a salty snack machine to keep them fed. Unlocking each new item is satisfying, and I was watching my kudosh more closely than my actual hospital finances. Which probably explains all the deaths.

A bullet a day keeps the monobrows away
The next stop on my medical odyssey was Flottering, which was a learning experience for me and my cabal of odd little doctors. Here staffing is an issue, so after hitting certain staff happiness targets to get a training license, I had to invest in people instead of amusing posters for the toilet walls. That’s when it all started to go a bit wrong.

Training staff takes time, and when doctors and nurses are busy book learning they’re not healing patients or—this is based on the US healthcare system after all—making money. It’s a balancing act that’s a bit harder to manage than making sure your toilets are perfectly aligned. I soon ended up with a classroom of staff, enraged Freudian Lips patients wandering the halls, a bottleneck of people trapped by the newsagent stand and—god help us all—a monobrow infestation. These little critters roam the hospital, hiding under vending machines and benches, and have to be found and eliminated. Pleasingly, when you find one the cursor turns into crosshairs, allowing you to take pot shots.

By the final level, the University Hospital of Mitton, my cockiness was in the bedpan. This hospital was focused on research and gave me tough targets to hit, but it was also in one of the colder regions of Two Point County, so I was more concerned with affording enough radiators to keep everyone happy. Unfortunately, telling everyone to just put on an extra sweater, dad-style, is not an option. Luckily, taking out a series of dubious loans is.

The more I see of Two Point Hospital, the more I want to run wild through the medical establishments of Two Point County, throwing down vending machines and staffing wards with tiny nurses. Just like Theme Hospital it finds the perfect balance between daft humor and that dopamine hit that comes with the best simulations, the satisfaction of fine tuning every corridor and doctor's office for maximum efficiency. Where things have changed it's for the better. You can see the evolution everywhere, in the way you can summon different visualisation modes to spot problem areas, in the challenges the varying regions of Two Point County present, and in surprises like those furry little monobrows that can lift the spirits after a visit from the health inspector. It's a strong medicine that—despite a few desperate trawls of Steam after my demo—nothing else comes quite close to matching.

https://www.pcgamesn.com/two-point-hospital/two-point-hospital-post-release-content

Two Point Hospital is out in August and what's next is up to you, say the devs

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When we played the first level of Two Point Hospital’s alpha build back in April, all of its big features were in place and felt solid. But, as you’d expect from an alpha, it also felt sparse, opaque, and lacked polish. Three months later, the team at Two Point Studios is ready to show its hospital management game again, and have just announced a release date: August 30. It's all tantalisingly close.

Seriously, think about it: your head turns into a light bulb and the treatment is to tear it off. That's dark, right? What if Two Point Hospital were real?

We spoke with design director Gary Carr, art director Mark Smart, and lead animator Chris Knott about what’s new since April, and their plans for post-release/user-generated content.

PCGamesN: So what's changed in the build since we the last got to see it?

Gary Carr: Quite a lot, really - we were alpha then, and we’re now in beta. We’re in the zone of not being able to make any excuses. We’ve got a finished game in the sense that all the features are there, we’re just in the bug fixing and polish phase. The whole game is playable all the way through, and there are no more features going in; it’s just going through the bug list really, and doing some refinements.




Mark Smart: From an art point of view as well, all the assets are in there, and all the levels are populated with the different regions.


PCGamesN: One of the main problems we had with the last build was readability. Treatment for a couple of diseases consistently failed, and we had no idea why, and we would mouse over the disease expecting a hint that didn’t come. Is this something you’ve been looking at?


Carr: It has come on leaps and bounds. In fact, UI has been the biggest area of improvement, and was the biggest thing we caveated [in the last build]. Please don’t judge the UI - it’s usually the last thing that comes together, because you've got to second guess what information people want. We had an initial draft of it and it’s definitely improved since then.

PCGamesN: Can you give any examples of improvements that have been made?

Carr: Quite often it’s the flow of information - it’s knowing what people are doing, and what information they need. So, with hover UI, we’ve got three levels of tooltip: the initial level is usually the interactive tooltip, which could give something like how bored someone is or how tired they are, and then you can mouse over that and get even more information. We’re trying to give you as much - without overwhelming you - as possible, depending how you deep you drill into it.

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Initially, it seems quite easy to make the AI ‘un-techy’ - it looks sort of playful. We want you to be able to drill into that and get absolutely as much information as a simulation can [give you]. Logs, stats on the wellbeing of the characters - it’s all there, it’s just a question of giving it to the player in a palatable way.

In an ideal world, when making these games, you wouldn’t want any UI at all. Chris has done a lot of work on the visuals for that, especially on the [character] traits [of your patients and staff] - he’s been hooking up more and more visuals so you can get a real idea of ‘this person in this mood is meeting this person in this mood’, which could trigger something you may never have seen before.

Chris Knott: Ideally, you’d rather the majority of your gameplay was spent looking at what the little people are doing. We’ve tried to make how they’re feeling, and what you need to do about it, as obvious as it can be without having to have things shoved in your face constantly, because there’s nothing more annoying than being constantly poked. We also want the players to care about [their patients], so then it makes it more about you as a player following up and caring about your patients and being proactive about what's wrong with them.

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Carr: We want it to feel really natural and look like a little animated world of interesting things going on, not blotted by lots of UI poking above their heads or around them. But what we try to encourage is clicking on things, but some people will happily place things down and move things around and tire people, and they won't get as much information because perhaps they don't care about it as much. Whereas, if people want to absolutely see how they could gain this there's a lot of UI that they can drill into to get the max out of it.

PCGamesN: You offered some cosmetic options, such as paintings, in the prior build, but the selection seemed limited. Has customisation been expanded at all?

Smart: We’ve improved the system of how you navigate [those options]. When [you] played there was just a massive long list of stuff - we’ve now got a better filter system which allows you to categorise all your items, and we have a nice filter that even suggests what pieces might be good to put in a corridor or a room, which helps those who aren’t too sure what to do. The ability to find things now - because we’ve got quite a lot of items - is a lot easier. Customisation is an ongoing thing we’re going to add to the game. We’re not going to overwhelm the player with our first drop, and make it ultimately user-generated.


PCGamesN: Will that ever extend to being able to change the carpets or wallpaper? We noticed each room has a particular colour scheme or theme.

Carr: That’s fixed at the moment but we’ll see in the future. Initially, we want to craft the experience, craft the simulation, and try to give our best guess as to what people want to do. But what you often find when releasing games in this genre is you may not get it right. You may find people really love something you didn’t really think [they would]. So we try and push more content in those areas if there is a demand for it. With all of this customisation stuff, we’ll see what really resonates with people. If people want more of it, we can do that. That’s not a problem.

Smart: Yeah, that’s always been in the back of our minds - user-generated content.

PCGamesN: On that point, is a scenario editor or a level editor something you're considering?

Carr: I think with these things there’s a time to do them. You need to get a sense of your community first. So when we’ve released the game and we start to get feedback on what people would like, we’ll want to support that. And if it means user-generated content comes along at some point we would absolutely support that, if there’s a demand for it. If people wanted more customisation we would do that, for sure.

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PCGamesN: Simulation games exist on a spectrum of complexity. Planet Coaster lets people make stunningly intricate parks but the trade-off is accessibility. It’s fairly clear where Two Point Hospital stands on that spectrum - what's been your thinking there?

Knott: Accessibility has always been at the root of it, right from when you first do the tutorial. How you progress from there is kind of up to you - under the hood there’s a lot going on, so you can drill down into it, you can play it how you want, really.

Carr: And, on the building aspect, I think sometimes you have to be really careful. When we were still at Microsoft there were a couple of projects that were knocking around that we were aware of, and [from them learned that] players aren’t often comfortable with having total creative freedom. They need some guide rails and they want some kind of reward for what they’ve done. If people just want to build boxes and plonk things in the middle of the room, that doesn't massively matter.

PCGamesN: How are you feeling as you approach release?

Carr: It’s amazing how much came together that went to our original plan. I think that's come with experience - Chris, Mark, and myself have worked together for 20 years, so we don’t need to hold each other’s hands, and we trust each other to do things. So it’s not just a case of ‘oh, Chris has got another idea, he’s got to try and sell it to the team’ - he’ll just go and do it, and the same with Mark. We can let people go do what they’re good at.

And if we disagree, we deal with it like good gentlemen - in the car park [all laugh].
 

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This game is like the first one in ages I'm genuinely looking forward to play.

Since it's basically a Theme Hospital remake, and TH isn't really a complex game to begin with, they can't really fuck it up too badly, can they?
 

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Didnt expect this one so soon.... i think ill wait for the first user reviews, i dont trust the nostalgia effect... :C
 

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Didnt expect this one so soon.... i think ill wait for the first user reviews, i dont trust the nostalgia effect... :C
Yeah, too many disappointments in that direction.
I'm looking at you, most recent Pizza Connection...

However, at least from the footage so far and the fact that it won't force me to use Windows, this one gets some cautious optimism.
 

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The graphics looks worse than original cartoony style, lets hope the mechanics are ok
 

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The graphics looks worse than original cartoony style, lets hope the mechanics are ok

Looks like a Wallace and Gromit hospital sim.

I also prefered the classic 2D look, but if the gameplay is good, it may fit...
 

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Saw this one on a stream and was happy to see a few Mucky Foot references tucked away as well. These guys have the pedigree for sure, and the diseases look appropriately hilarious.

Speaking of Bullfrog, did you guys know Demis Hassabis (boy genius behind Theme Park and later Evil Genius) made Google's DeepMind AI? Meanwhile, Molyneux continues down the huckster rabbit hole...
 

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I guess I'll preorder it. My greatest concern is financial aspect, that getting money will be extremely trivial, or fate of planet coaster, but I suppose it will make a nice compensation for all Bullfrog games I pirated in my childhood
 

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I will buy this game because they said they wanna expand their universe with more sims, so i want to support that.
 

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Noticed this one as well so hoping it doesn't disappoint. (CorsixTH still has some way to go)
They're targeting all the major platforms so kudos for that.
^^ Freddie Mercury syndrome is obviously a reference to King Complex; likewise for the other conditions that we'll see.
Played Theme Park back on the Amiga 500+ but Theme Hospital was always my favorite.

I suppose it remains to be seen whether the game is as witty as the original bullfrog game.
There were lots of subtle social references (like the banker with cash stuffed everywhere) amongst the zaniness that made the game so memorable.
The music and videos were top notch as well.
The whole game was a wonderful satire of non-free health care.

Looks like they've kept the staff personality descriptions and added some special skills (like ghostcatcher for handymen)
Receptionists don't appear to keep working indefinitely like in the original :(
The inclusion of the rat shooting bonus levels are a must!
 
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Jesus the Theme Hospital music was so chilling! In fact i think many tycoon games have nice relaxing music
 

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What I like: they've stayed true to the original when it comes to the cartoony style. It has much more soul than the modern generic styles games like this usually employ.
What I DON'T like: the game seems TOO FUCKING CLEAN. Theme hospital that I remember had dirty hallways, rats roaming around and people puking all over the floor.
 

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What I like: they've stayed true to the original when it comes to the cartoony style. It has much more soul than the modern generic styles games like this usually employ.
What I DON'T like: the game seems TOO FUCKING CLEAN. Theme hospital that I remember had dirty hallways, rats roaming around and people puking all over the floor.

There are many videos who shows dirty hallways and lot of garbage on the floor.
 

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Theme hospital that I remember had dirty hallways, rats roaming around and people puking all over the floor.
I remember paying more to janitors than doctors in every single level of this game and the hallways were still half-covered in puke and litter.

Skilled doctor asking for a raise = shit canned.

Super fast moving janitor asking for a raise = shutup and take my money.
 

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Codex 2014


We talk to Bullfrog and Lionhead legends Gary Carr and Mark Webley about the design of PC cult classic Theme Hospital, and how their careers twisted and turned to see them return to create a spiritual successor.
 

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Any brave soul D1P'ing this? I too have uberfond memories of Theme Hospital, but I've always been a shitty and occasional sim player. Just hoping that they get the core gameplay loop right, and haven't learned too much from browser games.
 

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The game's Steam forum is a massive dramafest right now because the devs added the Denuvo implementation sign to the game's Steam store page only today. Some people not even noticing the obvious trolls fanning the flames are the cherry on top :lol:
 

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