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Cleve gets into a fight with SidAlpha!

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Hey Sid, why don't you register an account here and we'll see how tough you are without your league of sycophants to back you up?
 

PorkBarrellGuy

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>massive asshole
He's a goddamn funny, entertaining asshole. Sid is just an asshole. Advantage: Neanderthal.

Hey Sid, why don't you register an account here and we'll see how tough you are without your league of sycophants to back you up?

YouTubing faggots prefer spaces where they can control metacommentary (you know, like YouTube comments).
 

PorkBarrellGuy

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Fucking say what you will about Cleve (and you might well even be right) but he banged out Grimwah when most onlookers were either certain it would never release or were actually hoping for it to never release just to gloat. The fuck does Sid have to his name? A fucking YT channel. I could probably do that shit in spare time, hell. I don't think I could do a Grimoire of my own, though. Respect where it's due.
 

PorkBarrellGuy

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Arguing with someone who makes money by posting videos about said arguments seems mildly counter productive.

He'd probably make a video about the absence of an argument and fill it with whatever he pleased, if he's anything like any other Reply-Girling YouTuber. Besides, I doubt Cleve is SO deluded he thinks he's changing anyone's mind - he's probably doing it because it's fun. (Could be wrong.)
 

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People who have never created shit can't know what it's like to be accused of plagiarism. Say all you want about Cleve's antics, but that's a serious allegation. That the video literally does nothing to discuss them says everything. Must be a low content day to fixate on private squabblings, but that's the grift of 'drama' YouTubers who like the general population of whiners must create things to bitch about if there is nothing available.
 

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Arguing with someone who makes money by posting videos about said arguments seems mildly counter productive.

He'd probably make a video about the absence of an argument and fill it with whatever he pleased, if he's anything like any other Reply-Girling YouTuber. Besides, I doubt Cleve is SO deluded he thinks he's changing anyone's mind - he's probably doing it because it's fun. (Could be wrong.)

Fair point, just seem seem to recall this same Youtuber made a truck load of videos about this fucking mess https://lolcow.wiki/wiki/Alex_Mauer
 
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PorkBarrellGuy

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People who have never created shit can't know what it's like to be accused of plagiarism. Say all you want about Cleve's antics, but that's a serious allegation. That the video literally does nothing to discuss them says everything. Must be a low content day to fixate on private squabblings, but that's the grift of 'drama' YouTubers who like the general population of whiners must create things to bitch about if there is nothing available.

There's actually some irony here - YouTubers accuse each other of what amounts to plagiarism on the daily (see any video bitching about a "copycat" channel - some have better cases than others for their argument). The downside of opening content creation to any person with a mic and rudimentary knowledge of the appropriate software (and/or a camera) is that YouTube is saturated with utterly interchangeable reply-girls, scuttlebutt dissemination channels and enfant-provocateurs.
 

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Imagine Sid in that darkened convenience store in L.A. when Benny was tapping on the front door with his pistola. He would have literally dropped dead on the spot from fear.

Cleve, otoh, handled his business with a jar of baby food.
 

Generic-Giant-Spider

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Cleve, I honestly think you have the greatest insults known to mankind. There's something about your wordings that cuts deep. Even I feel them and I'm not the recipient. This guy made an on going thirty minute compilation that he had to painstakingly edit and rewatch to ensure it was properly put together because you said that he physically resembles a pale salami that was passed through a low budget gay porn film.

Like if you had RPG stats, I'm pretty sure you would have maximum penetration. If you were a D&D monster, you'd be a mind flayer. Maybe an elder brain at this point.

I had to look up this SidAlpha guy's typical videos and without surprise he's one of those self-employed YouTube journalists/critics that clogs up your search results with their shitty "drama report" videos in which they repeat ten articles and then speak their own thoughts you didn't ask for. And they ramble on and on, I actually am convinced that these homeless game journalists grew up as the forgotten middle child in their family and this explains their proclivity to make twenty minute videos that a normal humanoid could sum up within four.

We all know the derision that game journalists, ones that are allegedly employed, get by people that actually offer worth to the world. Now imagine being a pseudo game journalist on YouTube and you've reached a new low. Boy, talk about being the guidance counselor or librarian in a school. A worthless career and SidAlpha isn't even seen in the professional world as one of them.

By the way, did you all know he has a patreon? You probably do, you couldn't miss it by how he shamelessly plugs it every place he can. Oh my, nothing better than Internet panhandling. They used to make fun of people for joining the circus, but at least the clowns knew they were clowns.
 

Mustawd

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I wrote this guy very politely the first dozen times reprinting his own forum policy to ask him how he could leave this comment up on the forum when if it alleged that Grimoire was stolen IP/code.

That's ALL this was ever about. There are hundred of winners on Reddit saying bad things about Grimoire, so what.

This was just about that very unfounded accusation. I never mentioned anything about anything else BUT this.

Millennials are stupid. Seriously. They're morons. This queen turns it into a crusade for justice against "dirty developers" and somehow claims this is about missed release dates and all this gibberish. NONE of that had to do with my PRIVATE complaint to him. According to this guy, I'm another developer attacking Reddit because something said something bad about my game.

My complaint had NOTHING to do with any of this.

I don't need these dramas, honestly. But cucks gonna cuck and NPCs gonna NPC.

Hey Cleve, any word on that Grimoire manual?

I know you’re busy having internet fights, so just wanted to shoot you a friendly reminder. Happy Thanksgiving.

Oh, and I also think you said you’d release the source code of Grimoire. Would be cool if you did it this weekend. ‘K thanks.
 

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Bohr

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The main thing is everyone involved in the saga is now 'talking to a lawyer'. Boom times ahead for the legal profession.

SidAlpha's Lawyer:
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Cleve's lawyer:
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Baxander's Lawyer:
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https://www.reddit.com/r/SidAlpha/comments/6m87d6/possible_dirty_dev_material_cleveland_mark/

The original post is over a year old and only has 3 upvotes. Cleve most likely stumbled on it while obsessively googling himself and his game (which is probably how he fills the time in his days that he could be using to write the manual). All the shit he's flinging brought far more attention to the post than it would have ever gotten otherwise.

I'm pretty sure Cleve's primary goal with all of this is attention.
 

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